[Ads-l] Can't hurt, may help.

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Aug 16 14:04:57 UTC 2015


That's because it isn't good enough to be counted as "select."

In fact, 99% of Monteleone's book is clearly derivative of earlier amateur
glossaries (an old slang custom).

I had rare need or occasion to cite it.  The sole ex. I can think of is
"gangbang," v., for which Monteleone was my earliest source.

The complete, non-select bibliography ran to something like 6,000 titles.
Just think, I could have been partying!

(Books and periodical titles, that is.  No articles.)

JL

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:20 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Criminal Slang: The Vernacular of the Underground Lingo
> https://books.google.com/books?isbn=3D1584773006
> Captain Vincent Joseph Monteleone - c1949; rep. 2003 - =E2=80=8EPreview
> Criminal Slang: An Introduction Bryan A. Garner
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> "Oddly, Captain Monteleone's compilation isn't mentioned in the Select
> Annotated Bibliography that J.E. Lighter included in his magisterial book
> on slang, _The Random House Dictionary of American Slang_ (1994). Even more
> surprisingly, it doesn't appear to have been cited anywhere in the
> three-volume (and counting <sob!>) text."
> - Bryan A. Garner
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> It looks like you made a mistake, Jon. But, so did he.
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