[Ads-l] A Texan on Facebook: (UNCLASSIFIED)

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Fri Dec 11 02:46:26 UTC 2015

> On Dec 10, 2015, at 6:47 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Mullins, Bill CIV (US) <
> william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil> wrote:
>> need killing
> It's the lack of _to be_ or _to get_between "needs" and "shot" in a comment
> posted by a Texan that was the point.
> When I was first told of the existence of this structure, it was said to be
> peculiar to the speech of Northern Pennsylvania, specifically to that of
> the NWPA town of Erie. This structure is also used by my wife, a native of
> the NEPA town of Kingston.

The main studies on the "needs washed" construction, by Tom Murray and Beth Simon, associate it with SE Ohio, W Pennsylvania, West Va., and adjacent areas.  Their work, as well as a good recent paper by Elspeth Edelstein, shows that "need", "want", and "like" are all possible with bare past participles for some speakers, "need" and "want" for others, and only "need" for still others, so there's an implicational relation.  We have a page with these references and a synopsis of our research on this family of constructions at http://microsyntax.sites.yale.edu/needs-washed.


> Next time, I won't assume that the ADS-L was listening, as I was mentioning
> this background to my wife. ;-)
> -- 
> -Wilson
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