[Ads-l] Restricted access to "Stars and Stripes" and "The buck stops here"

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sun Feb 8 22:29:33 UTC 2015


Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Since such signs other than Truman's were so rarely alluded to, since the
> early examples are military, and since the memory has been in my head
since
> about 1971, what are the odds that I'm imagining it?

Youneverknow.

After all, till corrected by Larry as collateral damage in one of his
posts, I "clearly remembered" "Youneverknow" as "Whatcanyousay?"

OTOH, my clear memory of the phrase, "clean, pure, white time" - and
nothing else - as occurring in a story in Astounding Science Fiction that I
read, back in the '50's, is exactly right. Google it.

Youneverknow.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Subject:      Re: Restricted access to "Stars and Stripes" and "The buck
> stops
>               here"
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> I can only repeat my sadly unconfirmed guarantee that I saw reference to a
> sign with that phrase mentioned in the pages of a magazine (I still think
> it was _Our Army_) in the 1930s, a few years (or at least a few months)
> earlier than the sign mentioned in 1939.
>
> Fred once got a researcher to look for it. He was unsuccessful. But the
> print in _Our Army_ is rather small.
>
> Since such signs other than Truman's were so rarely alluded to, since the
> early examples are military, and since the memory has been in my head since
> about 1971, what are the odds that I'm imagining it?
>
> Just sayin'.
>
> JL
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:05 AM, <sclements at neo.rr.com> wrote:
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> > Subject:      Re: Restricted access to "Stars and Stripes" and "The buck
> > stops
> >               here"
> >
> >
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> >
> > Both Bonnie and I have run into the same problem while trying to view a
> > similar time frame hit for "the whole nine yards."  We decided that the
> hit
> > is a false one and most likely much more modern(1960s and later).  The
> > image preview looks nothing like a newspaper from the 1940s.
> >
> > Sam Clements
> > ---- ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > While preparing a website entry about the saying "The buck stops here"
> > > I noticed a match in the "Stars and Stripes" in the NewspaperArchive
> > > database. Unfortunately, additional detailed information about the
> > > match was blocked, and the following message was displayed:
> > >
> > > [Begin message]
> > > This content has restricted access at the request of a rights holder
> > > [End message]
> > >
> > > Below is the partial information that subscribers to the
> > > NewspaperArchive database are shown:
> > >
> > > Newspaper: Washington Stars and Stripes
> > > Date: Sat, May 23, 1942
> > > Location: Washington, District Of Columbia
> > > Database: NewspaperArchive
> > >
> > > [Begin raw OCR match text]
> > > they get around to awarding a Sympathy Medal, 1st Lt. Joseph A.
> > > Dooley. Quartermaster Corps, should lead the parade for citations. On
> > > his desk a sign reads: . The Buck Stops Here." ^ Aid ' Measure s |
> > > Awaits Vote Biggest Convoy of War Arrives as Troops Pour into Ireland
> > > Tank Units WASHINGTO
> > > [End raw OCR match text]
> > >
> > > Does someone have access to the full newspaper page image for this
> > citation?
> > >
> > > There is now an entry on the Quote Investigator website on this "The
> > > Buck Stops Here". At this time, the citation from the "Stars and
> > > Stripes" has been omitted:
> > > http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/02/07/buck-stops/
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help you can provide,
> > > Garson
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