[Ads-l] Albanians

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Feb 19 21:37:41 UTC 2015


Correction. My grandmother's recollected pronunciation was "Awl 'banny,"
not "Awl 'bayny."

JL


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> I've had relatives (including my brother) and friends who lived in =
> Albany, CA, adjacent to (and cheaper real estate than) Berkeley.  I =
> couldn't remember if residents there are Albanians--here's some relevant =
> debate:
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> http://patch.com/california/albany/poll-all-bany-or-al-bany-you-tell-us
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> Apparently the town itself can be either /aelb at ni/ or /Olb at ni/ and the =
> residents can be Alb/ei/nians (like those on the Adriatic) or =
> Alb/ae/nians ("All-BANN-ians").  Or Albany-ites.  Who knew?  (Nice to =
> see a bit of IPA in the Comments section, anyway.)
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> LH
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> On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Charles C Doyle wrote:
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> > The town name of Albany GA is often pronounced, by Georgians, with the =
> the second syllable stressed: [bI].  The [l] in the first syllable is, =
> of course, optional.
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> > [bI]--that's an upper case i.
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> > [l]--that's a lower case L. =20
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> > Damn these non-Times-Roman fonts!
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> > My grandmother (b. 1888) once questioned my pronunciation of  " =
> 'Awlbany."
> > She thought it "used to be" "Awl 'bayny."
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> > I could never figure this out. Maybe she had heard "Albanians" and
> > "Awlbayny" in the 1890s.
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