[Ads-l] "Downsight" (P.S.)

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jan 2 03:04:39 UTC 2015


And on whether you shorten the vowel.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> On Dec 31, 2014, at 1:34 AM, W Brewer wrote:
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> > BN: <<Except that I have been hearing news with [s]
> > on NPR in recent months.>>
> > WB:  Probably [#nu:zssss#] vs [#'nu:z worthy#].
> > Unremarkable allophony.
> >=20
> Seriously, to support your general point:  I was scoffing at "NPR noose" =
> but then I realized that I probably say "noosepaper", so it's just a =
> question of which environments (word-final vs. pre-voiceless consonant) =
> the devoicing occurs in.  Whether this is allophony depends on your =
> theory.
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> LH
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