[Ads-l] Fictional Materials for OED (UNCLASSIFIED)

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jan 8 22:40:02 UTC 2015


Thanks, for pointing to the entry for "unobtanium", Bill. The earliest
citation listed in the Oxford English Dictionary in 1956 is the one I
posted to the ADS mailing list during the discussion in April 2014.
Proud that I was able to help the OED linguists trace this fun word
(though the cite may have been found independently).

http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2014-April/132262.html

Garson

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Mullins, Bill CIV (US)
<william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil> wrote:
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> I bet the fact that there are also non-SF uses of "carbonite" strongly infl=
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>> "Carbonite" is also included.  Still no entry for "kryptonite," which I
>> wou=3D ld have said has the strongest claim of all.
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>> Fred's prediction has come true -- "unobtanium" is now listed in the
>> OED.
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>> > I have previously suggested that OED should have entries for
>> "kryptonite"
>> > (Superman), the spice "melange" (Dune) and "ice-nine" (Cat's Cradle).
>> > No one seemed particularly to agree with me, as I remember.
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>> > I am inspired to return to this topic by noticing that Wikipedia has
>> > an article, "List of Fictional Elements, Materials, Isotopes and
>> > Atomic Particles."  This list supplies me with some additional
>> candidates:
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>> > adamantium (Wolverine)
>> > carbonite (The Empire Strikes Back)
>> > dilithium (Star Trek)
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>> > After its use in the film Avatar, "unobtanium" may also merit OED
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>> > Fred Shapiro
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