[Ads-l] It's an intrusive L!

Charles C Doyle cdoyle at UGA.EDU
Fri Jul 3 15:33:43 UTC 2015


I would take "calvary" (in the mounted troops sense) to be largely the result of unconscious "folk" etymology (so-called).

Isn't it mainly Christians who say "calvary" in that sense?

--Charlie

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> On Jul 3, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> =
wrote:
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> Reminds me again of the aforementioned "calvary" (which I keep seeing =
in
> print), which features an intrusive and an elided / l /.
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> JL

I'd put metatheses of the "calvary"/"cavalry" or "irrevalent" kind into =
a different bag from the intrusive L of "the reason why(-l-)it works", =
"draw(l)ing", or "how(l) it works", or the intrusive R of "I saw(r) a =
film today oh boy" (from the Beatles' A Day in the Life--an example I =
hadn't noticed before reading the wiki entry on intrusive/linking R).  I =
think my reluctance to collapse the two phenomena is that I suspect a =
difference in motivation.

LH
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> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Dave Hause <dwhause at cablemo.net> =
wrote:
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>> Which, of course, should have been a reply to Wilson.
>> Dave
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Hause
>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:03 PM
>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: It's an intrusive L!
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>> AH, thank you.  Now I know what is happening when my friend says, =
"howl it
>> works."
>> Dave Hause
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Laurence Horn
>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:13 PM
>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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>>> On Jul 2, 2015, at 7:18 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> =3D20
>>> For dekkids, I've heard Fats Domino sing:
>>> =3D20
>>> I'm walking to New Orleans
>>> New Orleans is my home
>>> That's the reason, while I'm going
>>> I'm walking to New Orleans
>>> =3D20
>>> And, during that time, I've attempted to winkle out to meaning of =
the =3D
>> third
>>> line,
>>> =3D20
>>> "That's the reason, _while_ I'm going."
>>> =3D20
>>> In a sudden, blazing flash of insight, I've come to realize that =
what =3D
>> we
>>> have here is a failure to recognize the insertion of an intrusive L =
to
>>> break up the hiatus between the preceding (IPA) [a] of "why" and the
>>> following (IPA) [a] of "I," instead of the more-common intrusive R
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>> More common to be sure, although as I noted a couple of years back =
the L =3D
>> is also a feature of Philadelphia-area (working class?) accent, and =3D=

>> nicely illustrated by Patti Smith in her reading of her memoir _Just =
=3D
>> Kids_, about the years she spent with Robert Mapplethorpe, who did a =
lot =3D
>> of "drawling" (the kind that involves sketch pads and charcoal =
pencils).
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>>> or even
>>> the nearly-standard glo?al onset/glo?al catch. Hence, the correct =3D
>> reading
>>> of the third line is,
>>> =3D20
>>> "That's the reason _why_ I'm going."
>>> =3D20
>>> It's obvious.
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>> and confirmed by=3D20
>> =
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.youtube.com_wat=
ch-3Fv-3D3DH1z45jVlM34&d=3DAwIBaQ&c=3D-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=3DwFp3X4Mu3=
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>>=20
>> At 1:35 you can here Fats's intrusive L as the corresponding lyrics =3D=

>> scroll on by.
>>=20
>> Takes me back, but the next one it segues to,
>> =
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ch-3Fv-3D3DbQQCPrwKzdo&d=3DAwIBaQ&c=3D-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=3DwFp3X4Mu3=
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1i1yRo2U&s=3DbLKHaM-DipM3oJ_g3rnni-kr6sP0xjptD-52jn5Ta8o&e=3D ,
>> does even more so.  Hearing that barrelhouse piano intro, waiting to =
=3D
>> find that thrill--ah, to be 14 again. =3D20
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>> LH
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