[Ads-l] RES: redshirt (UNCLASSIFIED)

Wed Jun 3 23:48:17 UTC 2015

Decades ago, MAD magazine ran a wonderful parody to the tune of
"Age of Aquarius" about generic red-shirts.
I can only remember a middle fragment:

... to distant worlds, way past Mars
Be sure that your adventures 
do - not - kill off your stars!

And we can do it with a crew that's dispensible, a crew that's dispensible,..

Minor actors that you bring on
Perish when the meet a Klingon
One-time faces not seen later
stumble in a planet's crater ...

It was illustrated by an endless line of security men walking off a plank extending from the NCC-1701 hanger bay. Great fun!


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Subject: RES: redshirt (UNCLASSIFIED)

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Subject:      RES: redshirt (UNCLASSIFIED)

Scotty wore/wears a red shirt and that character is pretty long lived. But,=

in the latest Star Trek, Chris Pine's Kirk needs Chekov to take over
engineering and he tells Chekov "go put on a red shirt," to which Chekov
gives Kirk an odd look. Whether they are inside-joking the rep of the red
shirt, dunno. 

Poster:       Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: redshirt (UNCLASSIFIED)

re redshirt in Star Trek: I think the real point is that they are not
credited by name in the cast. The death thing is sometimes true, sometimes
not; instead they are filler in the corridors of the Enterprise.


On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Mullins, Bill CIV (US) <
william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil> wrote:

> Poster:       "Mullins, Bill CIV (US)" <william.d.mullins18.civ at MAIL.MIL>=

> Subject:      redshirt (UNCLASSIFIED)
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
> This sense isn't in the OED.
> _NY Post_ 24 May 2015
> "Martin was further panicked to learn her child had been born in the wron=
> =3D
> month; many women on the Upper East Side time their pregnancies and IVF
> tre=3D
> atments to school enrollment, so their child will begin school at the
> oldes=3D
> t age possible - a practice known as redshirting."
> housewife/
> _Ukiah [CA] Daily Journal_ 2 Jan 1991 p 5 col 4
> "Redshirting, or holding children back from entering school to be sure
> they=3D
> 'll be academically strong later, is a practice that started in private
> sch=3D
> ools on the East Coast."
> Melitta Cutright _Growing Up Confident_ NY:Doubleday, 1992. p 187
> "Other parents, believing that older students are always more successful,=

> a=3D
> re electing on their own to "redshirt" their children in hopes of giving
> th=3D
> em an advantage over other children."
> _USA Weekend_ 5 Sep 1993 p 16 col 2
> "With a growing emphasis on school performance, more and more parents are=

> h=3D
> olding their kids back from kindergarten for a year.  They think
> "redshirti=3D
> ng," named after a similar practice among college students, gives kids an=

> e=3D
> dge."
> I also note that neither the OED nor the OED SF project doesn't include
> the=3D
>  _Star Trek_ sense of redshirt:  A person of minor importance who will
> like=3D
> ly get killed.  (But it is in _Brave New Worlds_)
> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirt
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt_(character)
> Dirk Hayhurst _Out of My League: A Rookie's Survival in the Big Leagues_
> NY=3D
> : Citadel Press, 2012 p 119
> "Now I felt a lot like one of the red shirts in Star Trek:  nameless,
> facel=3D
> ess, and the first to die."
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