[Ads-l] Has prescriptivism won one?

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Fri Mar 20 02:24:44 UTC 2015


"hot ice" is the term I grew up with in SE Michigan.

Herb

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Heard:
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> "Is that the consensus?"
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> and not
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> "Is that the consensus of opinion?"
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> During the '40's and '50's - in StL, at least - there was much made of the
> phrase, "consensus _of opinion_." We were taught that this phrase was
> "redundant nonsense," because there exists only *one* "consensus," that of
> opinion, the use of simple "consensus" is sufficient and proper. One may as
> well speak of "cold ice."
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> As it happens, though I've never heard anyone speak of "cold ice," I have
> heard "hot ice" spoken of a myriad of times. IME, it's the ordinary term
> for "dry ice" amongst the boyz in the 'hood.
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