[Ads-l] to "question"

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Mar 31 00:12:44 UTC 2015


> On Mar 30, 2015, at 4:46 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>> I find blend analyses more appealing for one-off structures.
> 
> But every structure was a one-off at one time. Or a bunch of one-offs.

True, timing is all.  
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> Or maybe "that" is coming to mean "whether" in cases like this.
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> JL

It does remind me a bit of the case of "(not) know that" (used non-factively), which approaches but is not identical to "(not) know whether":

I don't know that I can trust you.  
I don't know whether I can trust you.

The former, but not the latter, is compatible with knowing that you can't be trusted, and so can serve as a kind of euphemism.  

LH


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> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> To put it another way, it's bad writing.
>> On Mar 30, 2015 2:34 PM, "Laurence Horn" <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>>>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at MST.EDU> =
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Looks like a blend: "The government does not question the accuracy of =
>>> the information"
>>> 
>>> But why not "The government does not question whether the information is
>> =
>>> accurate", which is a lot closer to the syntax of the sentence uttered?
>> =
>>> And if it's a blend, it's a well-established one; examples of "X do(es) =
>>> not question that Y" with exactly this sense (expressing doubts as to =
>>> whether Y is the case, not necessarily denying, or attempting to deny, =
>>> that Y is the case) are very easy to attest.  I find blend analyses more
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>>> appealing for one-off structures. =20
>>> 
>>> LH
>>> 
>>>> + "The government does not deny that the information is accurate."
>>>> =20
>>>> Gerald Cohen=20
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>>>> Jonathan Lighter wrote, Monday, March 30, 2015 6:29 AM
>>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>>> Subject: to "question"
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>>>> 'To attempt to deny (that)' :
>>>> =20
>>>> CNN reports that the French government has criticized the release of
>>>> cockpit recordings from the Germanwings flight, "but does not question
>> =
>>> that
>>>> the information is accurate."
>>>> =20
>>>> Some OED defs. come close, but definitely no cigar.
>>>> =20
>>>> JL
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