[Ads-l] Crash-blossom OTY

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Nov 17 17:57:56 UTC 2015


"PARISIAN DEP MAYOR RE ATTACK VICTIMS" would apparently have been too
complicated, what with fewer letters and syllables.

JL

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:

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> Yes, but one (moi) would not say "victims of attack" in this case, since
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> ere were several.=C2=A0 Here we have not the ubiquitous "of" but the
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> As for Jon's> Not perfect, but close enough for government work,
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> Let's hope CNN does better next time.=C2=A0 That is, uses "for" or "of"
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> tead of "on".=C2=A0 :-)
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> Joel
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> Yes, the "on" makes the unintended reading less likely, but the weird
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> l in the modifier within the compound--which seems to have become a
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> d option anymore--makes it more likely.=C2=A0 For me, it can only be
> "Paris=
>  attack victims", even given the multiplicity of attack sites--i.e. the
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> tims of attacks are attack victims, not attacks victims.
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> LH
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> > On Nov 17, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
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> > Not perfect, but close enough for government work.
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> > On the TV screen, with all caps,=C2=A0 the "on" was easily misread (or,
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> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
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> >> Well, at least they got the preposition better than "for" or "of".=3DC2=
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> >> at is, I don't think there is a "deputy mayor on Paris", so that I find
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> >> headline a bit difficult to read as "the deputy mayor on Paris attacks
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> >> victims."
> >> Deputy mayor "for" or "of" Paris seems to crash more loudly.=3DC2=3DA0
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> >> uty mayor for Paris attacks victims" crashes with a different ambiguity
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> >> is the deputy major for (does he support) the Paris attack victims?
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