[Ads-l] "We ARE x !"

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 22 15:41:34 UTC 2015


And if you back over 100 years, you find instances of "We are Russia". In
Cyrillic, of course...I don't know if you find examples of "We are France"
in 1848. I doubt you will find "We are Germany" back then, since there was
no Germany back then!

DanG

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Just watched an episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" from the early
> '90s (can't be any more specific) in which  Klingons inspirit themselves
> (with no non-Klingons present)  by chanting "We are Klingons!"
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> Emphasis on the word "Klingons," however.
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> JL
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> > Hardly. He gave talks every spring for decades in Ojai, which is a
> > little over an hour outside of Los Angeles. There were always plenty
> > of celebrities among the people who came to the talks every year. He
> > was the guru of choice for some time.
> >
> > Kate
> >
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> > On Nov 17, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > > "We are the World" was recorded in 1985.
> > >
> > > Coincidence?:
> > >
> > > 1956  J. Krishnamurti _Commentaries on Living: Third Series_
> > > (rpt.1967: Wheaton, Ill.: Quest) 78: As you say, the world is of our
> > > own making; the world is us and we are the world. To change the world
> > > we must change ourselves....Regeneration must therefore begin with
> > > ourselves.
> > >
> > > JL
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Victor Steinbok
> > > <aardvark66 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> Just to be clear--there IS a reduced version--"We ARE 99%!"
> > >>
> > >> Two more points of reference. If we go back far enough, we get "We
> > >> are
> > >> the World!" song, although that clearly had a different stress
> > >> pattern.
> > >>
> > >> On the other hand, there is a current series of Farmers Insurance
> > >> commercials that includes the phrase, "We ARE insurance," followed
> > >> by a
> > >> "We are Farmers!" jingle.
> > >>
> > >>    VS-)
> > >>
> > >>> I know, I know--it does not sound as romantic once you insert the
> > >>> article...
> > >>>
> > >>>    VS-)
> > >>>
> > >>> On 11/16/2011 4:04 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > >>>> News reports over the past several days have occasionally included
> > >>>> Penn State students both defending and deploring legendary coach
> > >>>> Joe
> > >>>> Paterno as well as offering gestures of goodwill to the alleged
> > >>>> victims of Jerry Sandusky.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The sudents can be heard chanting or emphatically asserting as
> > >>>> individuals, "We ARE Penn State!"  I'm not sure what that's
> > >>>> supposed
> > >>>> to mean beyond, "Harken to us!"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A few years ago, "We ARE Virginia Tech!" was the refrain of an
> > >>>> alleged
> > >>>> poem by Nikki Giovanni, written in the wake of an even worse
> > >>>> situation. It seemed to mean, "We of VT are strong enough to get
> > >>>> through absolutely anything unfazed."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Both of these usages seemed familiar, but how?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In another one of those epiphanous moments, I suddenly recalled
> > >>>> that
> > >>>> 1976 film _Taxi Driver_ ("You talkin' to  me? You talkin' to *me*?
> > >>>> Well, you must be talkin' to me, 'cause I'm the only one here!")
> > >>>> featured a slick political candidate, target of the insane Travis
> > >>>> Bickel, who was running on the slogan "We ARE the People!"   (Cf.
> > >>>> "We
> > >>>> ARE the 99%!" )
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The irony seemed to be that the slogan in the film was utterly
> > >>>> vapid.
> > >>>> It reminded me of the equally inane, but seriously intended,
> > >>>> "Nixon's
> > >>>> the One!" of 1968.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Moral: yesterday's inanity, today's inspiration.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> JL
> > >>>
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