[Ads-l] Antedating HDAS Oreo WAS: Nazi Wit and Humor (UNCLASSIFIED)

Mullins, Bill CIV (US) william.d.mullins18.civ at MAIL.MIL
Mon Jan 4 15:59:32 UTC 2016


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>From Google Books:
_Jet_ Dec. 19, 1968 p 20
"In fact, while over at Junior High School 271, in Oceanhill-Brownsville, the kids started calling us Oreo -- you know, after the chocolate cookie that's black on the outside and white on the inside."


Related term:

C. Peter Wagner _Our Kind of People_ Atlanta: J. Knox Press, 1979 p 69
"C-1 American Indians call their C-3 counterparts "apples" (red on the outside and white on the inside) or "Uncle Tomahawks."  Chinese-Americans call their C-3s "bananas" (yellow on the outside, white on the inside), and so on."

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> Barry has looked at some analogous dual-color terms: "radish"
> communist (first cite 1919) and "watermelon" communist (first cite circa 1955 GB snippet), "watermelon" environmentalist (first cite 1990).
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> Radish Communist (red on the outside, white on the inside) 
> http://barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/radish_communist/
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> Watermelon (green on the outside, red on the inside) 
> http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/watermelon_green_on_the_outside_red_on_the_inside
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> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 4:50 PM, George Thompson <george.thompson at nyu.edu> wrote:
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> > Poster:       George Thompson <george.thompson at NYU.EDU>
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> > I've just finished reading a book about the rise of Hitler.  (I assure
> > you that this interest has nothing to do with recent developments in
> > American politics.  Surely one or two of you will believe this.)
> > Anyway, I know nothing about the author, but he seems to be a scholar
> > and certainly reads German, but there is not a word of German quoted
> > in the book.  He writes on p. 120:
> > Most of the Strasser people were, in fact, anti-Semitic socialists --
> > what the SA men would call "Beefsteak Nazis": brown on the outside and
> > red on the inside.
> > This expression, if indeed used by Nazis in the mid-1920s, as
> > chronology of the book suggests, anticipates the American disparaging expression "Oreo"
> > by about 45 years, per HDAS, which dates Oreo to 1969.
> > The author does not give the German version.
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> > The book is Samuel W. Mitcham, Jr., *Why Hitler? The Genesis of the
> > Nazi Reich*, Westport, Conn & London: PRaeger, 1996.
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> > GAT
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> >
> > --
> > George A. Thompson
> > The Guy Who Still Looks Stuff Up in Books.
> > Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
> > Univ. Pr., 1998..
> >
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