[Ads-l] geek HDAS def 3

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jan 24 22:46:46 UTC 2016


PS to said hypothetical person:

That was a joke.

JL

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
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> I don't think ablauts have much to do with it.
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> It's probably just an application of the weirdo/idiot sense under the
> influence of "gook."
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> Maybe I should alert the media that "geek" in computer contexts is
> therefore highly offensive.
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> Naah. Someone desperately in need of personal attention will do it.
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> JL
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> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com>
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> > Odd that there's never been any size component in the meanings, thinking
> of
> > the Watergate-era line, "A CREEP is a baby crope."
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> > Herb
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> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net>
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> > > "Geek" is a racial epithet?
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> > > > On Jan 23, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
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> > > > HDAS I affords two exx. of this synonym for "gook," the earliest from
> > > 1963=
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> > > > Here's another from 1963, referring to World War II:
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> > > > 1963 Bernard Gordon _Cry of Battle_ (film):  "Just a pack of geeks."
> > > "Ther=
> > > e
> > > > are no 'geeks' here. Just Filipinos. They want to be treated as
> equals
> > > > because that's what they are."
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> > > > The film is based on a novel, _A Time of Fortune_, by Benjamin Appel
> > > > (Morrow, 1963). No GB snippets confirm that  "geek" is therein, but
> one
> > > > would expect so.
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> > > > Note that both "geek" and "gook" were established slang terms for odd
> > or
> > > > crazy people before they became racial epithets.
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