[Ads-l] Jibe/jive

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Sat Jul 23 12:05:47 EDT 2016


> On Jul 23, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
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> The official White House transcript has "jibe" both times:
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.whitehouse.gov_the-2Dpress-2Doffice_2016_07_22_remarks-2Dpresident-2Dobama-2Dand-2Dpresident-2Dpena-2Dnieto-2Dmexico-2Djoint-2Dpress&d=CwIBaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=g9CLDjLqcL7wpB1w4QUqZCu2Jkw1sq0VxrIVMjBinPk&s=xc4FkHr9c2bDLrGPM30VXrhLNOGoGeRXchCp5lnHQ10&e= 
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> Video here:
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> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3D-2Dz1eDLgnMhA&d=CwIBaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=g9CLDjLqcL7wpB1w4QUqZCu2Jkw1sq0VxrIVMjBinPk&s=nDmr7TAXLRHmLq_4j8BwYEWCa_ZbuwLPFVwQs7GRzBg&e= 
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> Relevant bits are at about 19:35 and 20:15 -- both sound like "jibe" to me.

Maybe the transcriber couldn't decide whether or not to translate into jive talk.

LH
> 
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> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Christopher Philippo <toff at mac.com> wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 01:32 AM, Ann Burlingham <ann at BURLINGHAMBOOKS.COM>
>> wrote:
>> when i hear the president use "jive" for "jibe", i figure language change
>> has happened and i should move on.
>> 
>> oh, wait - apparently he used *both*, as reported by CBS:
>> 
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cbsnews.com_news_obama-2Ddonald-2Dtrumps-2Dremarks-2Dviolence-2Dimmigration-2Ddont-2Djibe-2Dwith-2Dfacts_&d=CwIBaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=g9CLDjLqcL7wpB1w4QUqZCu2Jkw1sq0VxrIVMjBinPk&s=NMwgD6KAsQ57w-qIccUQxri9d4K5HfZrgz66jZz23IM&e= 
>> 
>> Given that to jive is to not jibe with the facts, it shouldn't be
>> surprising if some people mix them up - but one would actually have to hear
>> what he said to be sure that it wasn't the mistake of the reporter.  The
>> above didn't have audio of Obama.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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