[Ads-l] material on "is is", "double is", etc.

Margaret Lee 0000006730deb3bf-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Sat Nov 19 09:41:02 UTC 2016


I thought we discussed 'double is' on this list several years ago.  Example:  'The thing is is that ...' 
It is one of President Obama's favorite constructions, with emphasis/stress on the first 'is.'

--Margaret Lee  

 
      From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
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 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:30 AM
 Subject: Re: material on "is is", "double is", etc.
   
Coppock and Staum (2004) argue against a “silent what” analysis on the
grounds that it cannot explain the presence of is in sentences like (10),
which they take to be of the same species as the double-IS construction:

10) That can’t be a very welcome outcome, is that rates will now rise.

I'm an is-is speaker - somebody pointed it out to me; naturally, I was
unaware of it - and, FWIW, (10) strikes me as just ungrammatical, even as
just an underlying representation. I realize that I'm about a
quarter-century behind contemporary syntactic theory and might feel
differently about it, were I sufficiently hip. But, as things stand, (10)
is "unreal, and I ain't going for it," as Richard Pryor used to say.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu>
wrote:

> An announcement on my blog:
>
> https://arnoldzwicky.org/2016/11/18/the-isis-files/
>
> of a publicly available resource about this syntactic variant in English.
>
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> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
>



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