[Ads-l] Urban legend? Or fact?

Joel Berson berson at ATT.NET
Thu Oct 6 11:05:05 EDT 2016


Yes, it has been discussed.  By me, a few minutes ago.
:-)Joel


      From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
 To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 
 Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [ADS-L] Urban legend? Or fact?
   
> On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Jim Parish <jparish at SIUE.EDU> wrote:
> 
> I'm not so sure: "his beloved books" and similar constructions seem to me to call for the trisyllable.
> 
> Jim Parish

Yeah, maybe I was a bit hasty on the "usually".  There may be a general distinction between attributive and predicative uses; "X is beloved by all" is definitely bisyllabic for me.  Has this been discussed anywhere?

LH


P.S.  Are there any speakers who rhyme "baked" and "naked"?


> 
> On 10/6/2016 9:02 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>> There's also "beloved".  I think it's always "dearly belov-ed", but otherwise usually two syllables rather than three.
>> 
>> LH
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 9:42 PM, Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The only one I vacilalte about is "learned", vs. "learn-ed" when I want to say it as an adjective.  And for the adj. in writing, I want to add an acute accent to the second "e".
>>> 
>>> Joel
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      From: Dave Hause <dwhause at CABLEMO.NET>
>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 11:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] Urban legend? Or fact?
>>> 
>>> AUGGHH!  Until you asked, it hadn't occurred to me.  Now, the answer has
>>> suddenly become, "I think maybe it is, sometimes, but I can't be sure of the
>>> circumstances."  But I know it doesn't sound dysphonious.  Inconclusive
>>> self-analysis!
>>> Dave Hause
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Wilson Gray
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 9:17 PM
>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>> Subject: Urban legend? Or fact?
>>> 
>>> Agent Orange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Agent-5FOrange&d=CwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=wlk3fYUlu36LThnA2K8ZWmAmBV-PVfzh2ohzp_EHwvg&s=4KBpq-z5bNmTBs-jFD5v1dyEh65MCW-N-YzjWj2eMhw&e=
>>> It was given its name from the color of the orange-striped barrels in which
>>> it was shipped and was, by far, the most widely-used of the so-called
>>> "rainbow herbicides."
>>> 
>>> And is _striped_ disyllabic for anyone else but me?
>>> -- 
>>> -Wilson
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