[Ads-l] WOTY? The p-word

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Oct 9 11:22:39 EDT 2016


Brian Stelter (b. 1985), CNN senior media correspondent:

"I remember the *one word* my parents tried to shield me from was the
P-word."

The *one* word.

JL


On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

> > On Oct 8, 2016, at 11:06 PM, Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
> >
> > Finally, I see what I've been missing (in addition to evening sports
> results) with the New England edition of the NY Times.  Its page one for
> Saturday, Oct. 8, has the Trump tape story as the second lead, columns 1-3,
> with the headline "Trump Brags on 2005 Tape of Groping Women" and a mere
> four and a fraction paragraphs.
>
> Yeah, last night when I put in the title of that article from my print
> edition under the byline Patrick Healy and Alan Rappeport with the below
> title into the Times search engine, it converted to an electronic piece
> under the title "Donald Trump Apology Caps Day of Outrage Over Lewd Tape",
> with three different authors and with "fuck" where Ben said it was.   On
> the print edition I have, "pussy" is on the continuation and "fuck" not at
> all.  They probably won't even offer me a rebate.
>
> LH
>
> >  An illustration in Ben's article shows the first page of the "Late
> Edition" (perhaps it should be called the "Later than the New England
> Edition Edition"), with the story as the lead, in columns 5--6, the
> (stronger?) headline "Tape Reveals Trump Boast About Groping Women", and
> space allowed for a subhead.
> >
> > And the texts (as far as I can read of the Late Edition) are different.
> In particular, the bedding of the Late Edition can be deduced -- its
> story's first sentence refers to Trump's "videotaped early Saturday"
> apology.
> > s
> >
> > My edition has "bitch" and "pussy" on the first page, but "fuck" is
> relegated to the continuation.  A comment by Colin Jones in Ben's article
> says "fuck" was on the front page.
> >
> >
> > Joel
> >
> >
> >
> >      From: Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM>
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 9:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ADS-L] WOTY? The p-word
> >
> > Check out the Strong Language blog for more on the media's handling of
> > Trump's expletives. So far there have been posts by Colleen Barry and me,
> > with more to come.
> >
> > My post:
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> stronglang.wordpress.com_2016_10_08_a-2Dbanner-2Dday-2Dfor-
> 2Dprofanity_&d=CwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=
> wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=VbWfP7M2N66-eCkSu5QlDVsEL1-
> e99Ue4cuoqfrI8yE&s=um9UttnKnUX-xJzslFxa5W7SgwRIRYMJfMZW6FdT8oU&e=
> > Colleen's post:
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> stronglang.wordpress.com_2016_10_08_pussy-2Don-2Da-2Dhot-
> 2Dtrump-2Dmic_&d=CwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=
> wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=VbWfP7M2N66-eCkSu5QlDVsEL1-
> e99Ue4cuoqfrI8yE&s=3J8nvDOJmGlA5KSd7-wkA2wFkVshCSiWiitjj2HXf7E&e=
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Is there now no unprintable N-word?  In one of its articles today, the
> NY
> >> Times printed in full tit, pussy, and fuck.  (Although the F-word -- and
> >> the N-word -- have appeared not infrequently before.  I haven't searched
> >> for the T-word or the P-word.)
> >>
> >> Joel
> >>       From: Robin Hamilton <robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM>
> >>   To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >>   Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 5:29 PM
> >>   Subject: Re: [ADS-L] WOTY? The p-word
> >>
> >> Yup.  Not as if he failed to wear an American Flag pin on his lapel.
> >>
> >> The Guardian here (as well as cheerfully printing "pussy" and "fuck"
> >> unasterisked) published a full transcript of his (two?) apologies --
> truly
> >> jaw-dropping.
> >>
> >> I found the apologies more unnerving than the original (linguistically)
> >> banal
> >> material -- he *knew* he was saying that, and that people would be
> >> watching?
> >>   Huh ....
> >>
> >> Still, for what it's worth, it's given a few more upper-echelon
> Elephants
> >> an
> >> excuse to desert the drowning rat.
> >>
> >> I'm reminded of Robert Henryson's fable of "The Puddock and the Mouse".
> >>
> >> R.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>     On 08 October 2016 at 22:00 Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     >Dream on.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     A woman who hosts a Republican radio talk show on explained to CNN
> >> that if
> >>>     the video had been made in the past few weeks, it would be
> troubling.
> >> But
> >>>     it was eleven years ago, and Mr. T---p has changed.
> >>>
> >>>     A middle-aged woman who supports T---p told CNN what she thinks of
> the
> >>>     video. A slight paraphrase of her answer:
> >>>
> >>>     "Donald Trump is an American man! That's how men talk! Why are you
> >> holding
> >>>     him to a higher standard?"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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