[Ads-l] WOTY? The p-word

Joel Berson berson at ATT.NET
Sun Oct 9 15:38:05 EDT 2016


Isn't that the *one word* (of the seven or more) that is most seductive to, and therefore most to be hidden from, an adolescent boy?  After all, for Pubescentes and for a few Years after Puberty,their Juices are in a Juvenile Fret, as Dr. William Douglass observed.


Joel


      From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
 To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 
 Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [ADS-L] WOTY? The p-word
   
> The *one* word.

Of course, that may be "truthful hyperbole."

JL

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Brian Stelter (b. 1985), CNN senior media correspondent:
>
> "I remember the *one word* my parents tried to shield me from was the
> P-word."
>
> The *one* word.
>
> JL
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> > On Oct 8, 2016, at 11:06 PM, Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
>> >
>> > Finally, I see what I've been missing (in addition to evening sports
>> results) with the New England edition of the NY Times.  Its page one for
>> Saturday, Oct. 8, has the Trump tape story as the second lead, columns 1-3,
>> with the headline "Trump Brags on 2005 Tape of Groping Women" and a mere
>> four and a fraction paragraphs.
>>
>> Yeah, last night when I put in the title of that article from my print
>> edition under the byline Patrick Healy and Alan Rappeport with the below
>> title into the Times search engine, it converted to an electronic piece
>> under the title "Donald Trump Apology Caps Day of Outrage Over Lewd Tape",
>> with three different authors and with "fuck" where Ben said it was.  On
>> the print edition I have, "pussy" is on the continuation and "fuck" not at
>> all.  They probably won't even offer me a rebate.
>>
>> LH
>>
>> >  An illustration in Ben's article shows the first page of the "Late
>> Edition" (perhaps it should be called the "Later than the New England
>> Edition Edition"), with the story as the lead, in columns 5--6, the
>> (stronger?) headline "Tape Reveals Trump Boast About Groping Women", and
>> space allowed for a subhead.
>> >
>> > And the texts (as far as I can read of the Late Edition) are
>> different.  In particular, the bedding of the Late Edition can be deduced
>> -- its story's first sentence refers to Trump's "videotaped early Saturday"
>> apology.
>> > s
>> >
>> > My edition has "bitch" and "pussy" on the first page, but "fuck" is
>> relegated to the continuation.  A comment by Colin Jones in Ben's article
>> says "fuck" was on the front page.
>> >
>> >
>> > Joel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >      From: Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM>
>> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 9:05 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [ADS-L] WOTY? The p-word
>> >
>> > Check out the Strong Language blog for more on the media's handling of
>> > Trump's expletives. So far there have been posts by Colleen Barry and
>> me,
>> > with more to come.
>> >
>> > My post:
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__strongl
>> ang.wordpress.com_2016_10_08_a-2Dbanner-2Dday-2Dfor-2Dprofa
>> nity_&d=CwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13g
>> tz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=VbWfP7M2N66-eCkSu5QlDVsEL1-e99
>> Ue4cuoqfrI8yE&s=um9UttnKnUX-xJzslFxa5W7SgwRIRYMJfMZW6FdT8oU&e=
>> > Colleen's post:
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__strongl
>> ang.wordpress.com_2016_10_08_pussy-2Don-2Da-2Dhot-2Dtrump-
>> 2Dmic_&d=CwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13
>> gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=VbWfP7M2N66-eCkSu5QlDVsEL1-e99
>> Ue4cuoqfrI8yE&s=3J8nvDOJmGlA5KSd7-wkA2wFkVshCSiWiitjj2HXf7E&e=
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Is there now no unprintable N-word?  In one of its articles today, the
>> NY
>> >> Times printed in full tit, pussy, and fuck.  (Although the F-word --
>> and
>> >> the N-word -- have appeared not infrequently before.  I haven't
>> searched
>> >> for the T-word or the P-word.)
>> >>
>> >> Joel
>> >>      From: Robin Hamilton <robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM>
>> >>  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> >>  Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 5:29 PM
>> >>  Subject: Re: [ADS-L] WOTY? The p-word
>> >>
>> >> Yup.  Not as if he failed to wear an American Flag pin on his lapel.
>> >>
>> >> The Guardian here (as well as cheerfully printing "pussy" and "fuck"
>> >> unasterisked) published a full transcript of his (two?) apologies --
>> truly
>> >> jaw-dropping.
>> >>
>> >> I found the apologies more unnerving than the original (linguistically)
>> >> banal
>> >> material -- he *knew* he was saying that, and that people would be
>> >> watching?
>> >>  Huh ....
>> >>
>> >> Still, for what it's worth, it's given a few more upper-echelon
>> Elephants
>> >> an
>> >> excuse to desert the drowning rat.
>> >>
>> >> I'm reminded of Robert Henryson's fable of "The Puddock and the Mouse".
>> >>
>> >> R.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>    On 08 October 2016 at 22:00 Jonathan Lighter <
>> wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>    >Dream on.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>    A woman who hosts a Republican radio talk show on explained to CNN
>> >> that if
>> >>>    the video had been made in the past few weeks, it would be
>> troubling.
>> >> But
>> >>>    it was eleven years ago, and Mr. T---p has changed.
>> >>>
>> >>>    A middle-aged woman who supports T---p told CNN what she thinks
>> of the
>> >>>    video. A slight paraphrase of her answer:
>> >>>
>> >>>    "Donald Trump is an American man! That's how men talk! Why are you
>> >> holding
>> >>>    him to a higher standard?"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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