[Ads-l] WOTY? The p-word

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Oct 9 17:20:54 EDT 2016


So I guess the female C-word was OK.

JL

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:

> Isn't that the *one word* (of the seven or more) that is most seductive
> to, and therefore most to be hidden from, an adolescent boy?  After all,
> for Pubescentes and for a few Years after Puberty,their Juices are in a
> Juvenile Fret, as Dr. William Douglass observed.
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>       From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>  Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 11:30 AM
>  Subject: Re: [ADS-L] WOTY? The p-word
>
> > The *one* word.
>
> Of course, that may be "truthful hyperbole."
>
> JL
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Brian Stelter (b. 1985), CNN senior media correspondent:
> >
> > "I remember the *one word* my parents tried to shield me from was the
> > P-word."
> >
> > The *one* word.
> >
> > JL
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> > On Oct 8, 2016, at 11:06 PM, Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Finally, I see what I've been missing (in addition to evening sports
> >> results) with the New England edition of the NY Times.  Its page one for
> >> Saturday, Oct. 8, has the Trump tape story as the second lead, columns
> 1-3,
> >> with the headline "Trump Brags on 2005 Tape of Groping Women" and a mere
> >> four and a fraction paragraphs.
> >>
> >> Yeah, last night when I put in the title of that article from my print
> >> edition under the byline Patrick Healy and Alan Rappeport with the below
> >> title into the Times search engine, it converted to an electronic piece
> >> under the title "Donald Trump Apology Caps Day of Outrage Over Lewd
> Tape",
> >> with three different authors and with "fuck" where Ben said it was.  On
> >> the print edition I have, "pussy" is on the continuation and "fuck" not
> at
> >> all.  They probably won't even offer me a rebate.
> >>
> >> LH
> >>
> >> >  An illustration in Ben's article shows the first page of the "Late
> >> Edition" (perhaps it should be called the "Later than the New England
> >> Edition Edition"), with the story as the lead, in columns 5--6, the
> >> (stronger?) headline "Tape Reveals Trump Boast About Groping Women", and
> >> space allowed for a subhead.
> >> >
> >> > And the texts (as far as I can read of the Late Edition) are
> >> different.  In particular, the bedding of the Late Edition can be
> deduced
> >> -- its story's first sentence refers to Trump's "videotaped early
> Saturday"
> >> apology.
> >> > s
> >> >
> >> > My edition has "bitch" and "pussy" on the first page, but "fuck" is
> >> relegated to the continuation.  A comment by Colin Jones in Ben's
> article
> >> says "fuck" was on the front page.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Joel
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >      From: Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM>
> >> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 9:05 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [ADS-L] WOTY? The p-word
> >> >
> >> > Check out the Strong Language blog for more on the media's handling of
> >> > Trump's expletives. So far there have been posts by Colleen Barry and
> >> me,
> >> > with more to come.
> >> >
> >> > My post:
> >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__strongl
> >> ang.wordpress.com_2016_10_08_a-2Dbanner-2Dday-2Dfor-2Dprofa
> >> nity_&d=CwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13g
> >> tz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=VbWfP7M2N66-eCkSu5QlDVsEL1-e99
> >> Ue4cuoqfrI8yE&s=um9UttnKnUX-xJzslFxa5W7SgwRIRYMJfMZW6FdT8oU&e=
> >> > Colleen's post:
> >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__strongl
> >> ang.wordpress.com_2016_10_08_pussy-2Don-2Da-2Dhot-2Dtrump-
> >> 2Dmic_&d=CwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13
> >> gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=VbWfP7M2N66-eCkSu5QlDVsEL1-e99
> >> Ue4cuoqfrI8yE&s=3J8nvDOJmGlA5KSd7-wkA2wFkVshCSiWiitjj2HXf7E&e=
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Is there now no unprintable N-word?  In one of its articles today,
> the
> >> NY
> >> >> Times printed in full tit, pussy, and fuck.  (Although the F-word --
> >> and
> >> >> the N-word -- have appeared not infrequently before.  I haven't
> >> searched
> >> >> for the T-word or the P-word.)
> >> >>
> >> >> Joel
> >> >>      From: Robin Hamilton <robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM>
> >> >>  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >> >>  Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 5:29 PM
> >> >>  Subject: Re: [ADS-L] WOTY? The p-word
> >> >>
> >> >> Yup.  Not as if he failed to wear an American Flag pin on his lapel.
> >> >>
> >> >> The Guardian here (as well as cheerfully printing "pussy" and "fuck"
> >> >> unasterisked) published a full transcript of his (two?) apologies --
> >> truly
> >> >> jaw-dropping.
> >> >>
> >> >> I found the apologies more unnerving than the original
> (linguistically)
> >> >> banal
> >> >> material -- he *knew* he was saying that, and that people would be
> >> >> watching?
> >> >>  Huh ....
> >> >>
> >> >> Still, for what it's worth, it's given a few more upper-echelon
> >> Elephants
> >> >> an
> >> >> excuse to desert the drowning rat.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm reminded of Robert Henryson's fable of "The Puddock and the
> Mouse".
> >> >>
> >> >> R.
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    On 08 October 2016 at 22:00 Jonathan Lighter <
> >> wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    >Dream on.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    A woman who hosts a Republican radio talk show on explained to
> CNN
> >> >> that if
> >> >>>    the video had been made in the past few weeks, it would be
> >> troubling.
> >> >> But
> >> >>>    it was eleven years ago, and Mr. T---p has changed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    A middle-aged woman who supports T---p told CNN what she thinks
> >> of the
> >> >>>    video. A slight paraphrase of her answer:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    "Donald Trump is an American man! That's how men talk! Why are
> you
> >> >> holding
> >> >>>    him to a higher standard?"
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
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> >
> > --
> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> truth."
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