[Ads-l] Request details of citation in Boston Daily Journal in 1865

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon Aug 14 17:55:53 EDT 2017


Garson, the database American History 1493-1945 appears to have only a
single issue of the Boston [Daily] Journal. Very unfortunately, it's the
issue for Wednesday. May 11, 1864.

A search shows nothing resembling the needed passage.

JL

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Garson, I have access, but it looks as though I'll have to renew my
> password - in person.
>
> Maybe I can do it this afternoon.
>
> JL
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Apparently, the Boston Daily Journal in April 1865 is available in a
>> database that is part of the Adam Matthew Digital collections. The
>> database is called:
>>
>> American History: 1493-1945 The Gilder Lehrman Collection
>>
>> This information is courtesy of former librarian Dennis Lien. If your
>> organization has access to this database and you wish to help please
>> let me know off-list or on-list.
>>
>> Stephen raises some valuable questions. I haven't tried to identify E. K.
>>
>> Garson
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > This quote sounds like Lincoln, as far as I know. I wonder who E.K. was
>> and why, if he interviewed Lincoln in July 1864, he or she waited until
>> April 1865 to write about it. Some later reprintings of the quote call E.
>> K. a correspondent or, without evidence, a "newspaperman." But a reporter
>> would likely have already reported an interview, and might have used his
>> full name. Though there are so many biographies of Lincoln, a quick search
>> suggests that none have identified E. K., which may be possible. (I did not
>> find the original newspaper online.) From Massachusetts? A politician? A
>> minister? Visitor to the White House?...
>> >
>> >
>> > Stephen Goranson
>> >
>> > http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
>> ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
>> > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:24 AM
>> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > Subject: [ADS-L] Request details of citation in Boston Daily Journal in
>> 1865
>> >
>> > Back in July, I received a request from a Wall Street Journal writer
>> > via twitter to explore a quotation attributed to Abraham Lincoln. The
>> > quotation is popular, e.g., CNN tweeted it on July 4, and the
>> > statement is engraved on the wall at the Newseum. Yet, the quotation
>> > is slightly inaccurate.
>> >
>> > [Begin excerpt]
>> > Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.
>> > [End excerpt]
>> >
>> > Barry Popik found a key citation dated April 29, 1865. I pushed the
>> > date back to April 21, 1865. Both of these citations pointed to an
>> > origin in the Boston Journal.
>> >
>> > Historian Yoni Appelbaum then located the earliest citation in Boston
>> > Daily Journal on April 17, 1865, and he tweeted an image.
>> >
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter
>> .com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF
>> 25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=
>> > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD9_iZhXUAAIqKR.jpg:large]<http
>> s://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.
>> com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF2
>> 5OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
>> >
>> > Yoni Appelbaum on Twitter<https://urldefense.pro
>> ofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_YAppelbaum_status
>> _882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08D
>> Js9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
>> > urldefense.proofpoint.com
>> > “@QuoteResearch @terryteachout @bdomenech Oh, that’s very well done.
>> The original ran in the Boston Daily Journal, April 17, signed “E.K."”
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Begin excerpt]
>> > "I have faith in the people. They will not consent to disunion. The
>> > danger is, that they are misled. Let them know the truth and the
>> > country is safe."
>> > [End except]
>> >
>> > What database contains the page images for in the Boston Daily Journal
>> > citation? Alternatively, if someone could send me a PDF or jpg of the
>> > page containing the quotation I would be most grateful. Thanks.
>> >
>> > Garson
>> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.
>> americandialect.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=vlj2ICAKMA
>> pOBm6IGESrH8asQHYCn9CP1C-GD0POWzw&e=>
>> >
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