[Ads-l] Combining two people's names: Javanka

Barretts Mail mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jun 4 01:23:39 EDT 2017


Very nice! Thank you, again. BB

> On 3 Jun 2017, at 22:21, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> A related phenomenon is the blending of fictional names by fans who "ship"
> a pair of characters (i.e., imagine them in a relationship). Cara
> DiGirolamo wrote a paper about this:
> 
> https://www.academia.edu/2450304/The_Fandom_Pairing_Name_Blends_and_the_Phonology-Orthography_Interface <https://www.academia.edu/2450304/The_Fandom_Pairing_Name_Blends_and_the_Phonology-Orthography_Interface>
> 
> And Gretchen McCulloch wrote about the paper for The Toast.
> 
> http://the-toast.net/2015/09/30/a-linguist-explains-the-grammar-of-shipping/ <http://the-toast.net/2015/09/30/a-linguist-explains-the-grammar-of-shipping/>
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com <mailto:mail.barretts at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you. I tried searching; I should have tried with specific
>> portmanteaus.
>> 
>> Perhaps rather than saying the stressed syllable, it is better to say that
>> the rime of each stressed syllable is preserved (BZ’s Vocabulary article
>> and December 2005 Language Log article), though
>> 
>> Rab Butler + Hugh Gaitskell = Butskell
>> 
>> at least is an exception. Perhaps the shared “t” in the rime of each is
>> the fusion key in that one.
>> 
>> The example of
>> 
>> Robert Pattinson + Kristen Stewart = Robsten
>> 
>> is an interesting combination of a first name and a last name, perhaps due
>> to the lack of similar rimes. And I think only Merkozy in AZ’s February
>> 2012 article has an instance in which the woman’s name is mentioned first.
>> 
>> Still a good puzzle for a linguistics student.
>> 
>> Benjamin Barrett
>> Formerly of Seattle, WA
>> 
>>> On 3 Jun 2017, at 20:28, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here are two posts I wrote for Language Log on name-blends, from 2005:
>>> 
>>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002610.html <
>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002610.html <http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002610.html>>
>>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002730.html <http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002730.html> <
>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002730.html <http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002730.html>>
>>> 
>>> Another one of mine, on Vocabulary.com <http://vocabulary.com/> <http://vocabulary.com/ <http://vocabulary.com/>>:
>>> 
>>> https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/wordroutes/blending- <https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/wordroutes/blending-> <
>> https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/wordroutes/blending- <https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/wordroutes/blending->>
>>> the-candidates-robama-and-obamney/
>>> 
>>> And more on Arnold's blog:
>>> 
>>> https://arnoldzwicky.org/2012/02/16/pairmanteaus/ <https://arnoldzwicky.org/2012/02/16/pairmanteaus/> <
>> https://arnoldzwicky.org/2012/02/16/pairmanteaus/ <https://arnoldzwicky.org/2012/02/16/pairmanteaus/>>
>>> https://arnoldzwicky.org/2015/07/22/an-appellmanteau/ <https://arnoldzwicky.org/2015/07/22/an-appellmanteau/> <
>> https://arnoldzwicky.org/2015/07/22/an-appellmanteau/ <https://arnoldzwicky.org/2015/07/22/an-appellmanteau/>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu <mailto:gcohen at mst.edu>
>> <mailto:gcohen at mst.edu <mailto:gcohen at mst.edu>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Benjamin Barrett wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> <snip>
>>>> 
>>>> "This sort of name combination has occurred in the past, though I can't
>>>> think of any instances."
>>>> 
>>>> <snip>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> During President Clinton's time in office there was "Billary" (Bill +
>>>> Hillary).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> G. Cohen
>>>> 
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>>>> Subject:      Combining two people's names: Javanka
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>>>> 
>>>> Today CNN has an article titled =E2=80=9CIvanka Trump's Worst Week in =
>>>> Washington=E2=80=9D =
>>>> (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst- <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst->
>>>> week-in-washing=
>>>> ton/index.html
>>>> <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump- <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump->
>> worst-week-in-washing=ton/index.html>
>>>> =
>>>> <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst- <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst-> <
>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst- <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst->>
>>>> week-in-washing=
>>>> ton/index.html>) by Chris Cillizza in which he writes:
>>>> 
>>>> =E2=80=94=20
>>>> Bannon represents a hard-charging, nationalist, populist, =
>>>> anti-establishment view of politics. Ivanka and her husband --
>> "Javanka" =
>>>> for short -- are far more liberal and moderate-minded.
>>>> =E2=80=94
>>>> 
>>>> This sort of name combination has occurred in the past, though I
>> can=E2=80=
>>>> =99t think of any instances.=20
>>>> 
>>>> There must be phonological rules at play, something somebody must have =
>>>> figured out by now. To borrow from words from grafting =
>>>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafting <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafting> <https://en.wikipedia.org/ <https://en.wikipedia.org/>
>> wiki/Grafting> =
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafting <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafting> <https://en.wikipedia.org/ <https://en.wikipedia.org/>
>> wiki/Grafting>>), in this combination the =
>>>> stressed syllables in Jared (the scion) and Ivanka (the stock) are both
>> =
>>>> preserved.
>>>> 
>>>> Also providing some welcome (imnsho) criticism of the word Javanka, the
>> =
>>>> article "How a portmanteau for Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner tore
>> apart =
>>>> Twitter=E2=80=9D =
>>>> (https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/ <https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/> <
>> https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/ <https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/>> =
>>>> <https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/ <https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/> <
>> https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/ <https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/>>>) =
>>>> by David Covucci in the The Daily Dot provides more examples:
>>>> 
>>>> Ben Affleck + Jennifer Lopez =3D Bennifer
>>>> Brad Pitt + Angelina Jolie =3D Brangelina
>>>> Wilmer Valderrama + Lindsay Lohan =3D Lohalderrama
>>>> 
>>>> In each case, the stressed syllable in each is preserved, and in each =
>>>> case, the man=E2=80=99s name is given first on the left side of the =
>>>> equation regardless of alphabetical order and regardless of the
>> ordering =
>>>> in the resulting combination.
>>>> 
>>>> Probable factors in how these are combined are that men=E2=80=99s names
>> =
>>>> are frequently clipped to a monosyllabic form (thus having only one =
>>>> syllable from which to choose) and women=E2=80=99s names are frequently
>> =
>>>> two or more syllables.
>>>> 
>>>> I have no love of the celebrosphere, or whatever it=E2=80=99s called,
>> so =
>>>> here is another article with more words; perhaps this is a good project
>> =
>>>> for a linguistics student:
>>>> 
>>>> =
>>>> http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple- <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple-> <
>> http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple- <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple->>
>>>> names-we-love-=
>>>> to-say/
>>>> <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb- <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb->
>> supercouple-names-we-love-=to-say/ <http://www.suggest.com/ <http://www.suggest.com/>
>> celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple-names-we-love-=to-say/>>
>>>> =
>>>> <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple> <
>> http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple>>
>>>> -names-we-love=
>>>> -to-say/
>>>> <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb- <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb->
>> supercouple-names-we-love=-to-say/ <http://www.suggest.com/ <http://www.suggest.com/>
>> celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple-names-we-love=-to-say/>>
>>>>> 
>>>> =20
>> 
>> 
>> 
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