[Ads-l] Combining two people's names: Javanka

Barretts Mail mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jun 4 17:26:07 EDT 2017


Here’s a study that confirms that men’s names generally occur before women’s names:

"Men, not ladies, first: We're still sexist in writing” on ScienceDaily cites a study by Peter Hegarty in the _British Journal of Psychological Society_ in saying that male-first instances account for 79 percent of samples examined.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100311092431.htm <https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100311092431.htm>

There are also complex rules for handling situations like this (http://emilypost.com/advice/guide-to-addressing-correspondence/ <http://emilypost.com/advice/guide-to-addressing-correspondence/>) that I hope people ignore so as to use their common sense instead.

Benjamin Barrett
Formerly of Seattle, WA

> On 3 Jun 2017, at 20:56, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you. I tried searching; I should have tried with specific portmanteaus.
> 
> Perhaps rather than saying the stressed syllable, it is better to say that the rime of each stressed syllable is preserved (BZ’s Vocabulary article and December 2005 Language Log article), though
> 
> Rab Butler + Hugh Gaitskell = Butskell
> 
> at least is an exception. Perhaps the shared “t” in the rime of each is the fusion key in that one.
> 
> The example of 
> 
> Robert Pattinson + Kristen Stewart = Robsten
> 
> is an interesting combination of a first name and a last name, perhaps due to the lack of similar rimes. And I think only Merkozy in AZ’s February 2012 article has an instance in which the woman’s name is mentioned first. 
> 
> Still a good puzzle for a linguistics student.
> 
> Benjamin Barrett
> Formerly of Seattle, WA
> 
>> On 3 Jun 2017, at 20:28, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM <mailto:bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here are two posts I wrote for Language Log on name-blends, from 2005:
>> 
>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002610.html <http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002610.html>
>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002730.html <http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002730.html>
>> 
>> Another one of mine, on Vocabulary.com <http://vocabulary.com/>:
>> 
>> https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/wordroutes/blending- <https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/wordroutes/blending->
>> the-candidates-robama-and-obamney/
>> 
>> And more on Arnold's blog:
>> 
>> https://arnoldzwicky.org/2012/02/16/pairmanteaus/ <https://arnoldzwicky.org/2012/02/16/pairmanteaus/>
>> https://arnoldzwicky.org/2015/07/22/an-appellmanteau/ <https://arnoldzwicky.org/2015/07/22/an-appellmanteau/>
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu <mailto:gcohen at mst.edu>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Benjamin Barrett wrote:
>>> 
>>> <snip>
>>> 
>>> "This sort of name combination has occurred in the past, though I can't
>>> think of any instances."
>>> 
>>> <snip>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> During President Clinton's time in office there was "Billary" (Bill +
>>> Hillary).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> G. Cohen
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Today CNN has an article titled =E2=80=9CIvanka Trump's Worst Week in =
>>> Washington=E2=80=9D =
>>> (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst- <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst->
>>> week-in-washing=
>>> ton/index.html
>>> <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst-week-in-washing=ton/index.html <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst-week-in-washing=ton/index.html>>
>>> =
>>> <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst- <http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/ivanka-trump-worst->
>>> week-in-washing=
>>> ton/index.html>) by Chris Cillizza in which he writes:
>>> 
>>> =E2=80=94=20
>>> Bannon represents a hard-charging, nationalist, populist, =
>>> anti-establishment view of politics. Ivanka and her husband -- "Javanka" =
>>> for short -- are far more liberal and moderate-minded.
>>> =E2=80=94
>>> 
>>> This sort of name combination has occurred in the past, though I can=E2=80=
>>> =99t think of any instances.=20
>>> 
>>> There must be phonological rules at play, something somebody must have =
>>> figured out by now. To borrow from words from grafting =
>>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafting <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafting> =
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafting <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafting>>), in this combination the =
>>> stressed syllables in Jared (the scion) and Ivanka (the stock) are both =
>>> preserved.
>>> 
>>> Also providing some welcome (imnsho) criticism of the word Javanka, the =
>>> article "How a portmanteau for Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner tore apart =
>>> Twitter=E2=80=9D =
>>> (https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/ <https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/> =
>>> <https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/ <https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/javanka-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/>>) =
>>> by David Covucci in the The Daily Dot provides more examples:
>>> 
>>> Ben Affleck + Jennifer Lopez =3D Bennifer
>>> Brad Pitt + Angelina Jolie =3D Brangelina
>>> Wilmer Valderrama + Lindsay Lohan =3D Lohalderrama
>>> 
>>> In each case, the stressed syllable in each is preserved, and in each =
>>> case, the man=E2=80=99s name is given first on the left side of the =
>>> equation regardless of alphabetical order and regardless of the ordering =
>>> in the resulting combination.
>>> 
>>> Probable factors in how these are combined are that men=E2=80=99s names =
>>> are frequently clipped to a monosyllabic form (thus having only one =
>>> syllable from which to choose) and women=E2=80=99s names are frequently =
>>> two or more syllables.
>>> 
>>> I have no love of the celebrosphere, or whatever it=E2=80=99s called, so =
>>> here is another article with more words; perhaps this is a good project =
>>> for a linguistics student:
>>> 
>>> =
>>> http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple- <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple->
>>> names-we-love-=
>>> to-say/
>>> <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple-names-we-love-=to-say/ <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple-names-we-love-=to-say/>>
>>> =
>>> <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple>
>>> -names-we-love=
>>> -to-say/
>>> <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple-names-we-love=-to-say/ <http://www.suggest.com/celebs/532/14-best-celeb-supercouple-names-we-love=-to-say/>>
>>>> 
>>> =20
> 


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