[Ads-l] Capitalizing in the middle of a trade name--trying again

Geoffrey Nathan geoffnathan at WAYNE.EDU
Tue Aug 14 14:52:41 EDT 2018


Thanks for the explanations.



I assume it’s a matter of particular settings in the ADS-L listserv setup, because the other half dozen or so other listservs I read daily do not have these effects on the text. In particular, they don’t balk at line lengths of varying sorts and actually accept Unicode characters (several of them have linguists on them).



Geoff



Geoffrey S. Nathan
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Emeritus Professor, Linguistics Program
http://blogs.wayne.edu/proftech/
geoffnathan at wayne.edu



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> not sure why the listserv software insists on breaking URL's with an
equal sign, but I'm now trying using 'plain text'.

Because there is a hard line length limit in email, so depending upon the
client, lines over 70 (85?) chars w/o a space will get broken with equal
signs and, again dependent upon the client, not put back together again.

>As we have noted on occasion, the listserv software mungs some people's
email by inserting control characters, while others are left unadorned.

This is probably due to different character sets being used - fancy clients
(like OutLook) may use Unicode or specialized char. sets that either fails
at the list serve process or in individual's clients.

> but I'm now trying using 'plain text'.
Probably the best option.


On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:31 AM Geoffrey Nathan <geoffnathan at wayne.edu>
wrote:

>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_P6M_SeaMaster#/media/File:Martin_P6M_Seamaster_in_flight_c1955.jpg
>
> vs
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Roadmaster#/media/File:1936BuickSedan.jpg
>
>
> (not sure why the listserv software insists on breaking URL's with an
> equal sign, but I'm now trying using 'plain text'. As we have noted on
> occasion, the listserv software mungs some people's email by inserting
> control characters, while others are left unadorned.)
>
> Geoff
>
>
>
>
>  Geoffrey S. Nathan
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>
>  geoffnathan at wayne.edu
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> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of Dan
> Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 12:08 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Capitalizing in the middle of a trade name
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>
> How does this allow one to differentiate a Buick Roadmaster from the Martin
> SeaMaster?
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 10:47 AM Margaret Winters <mewinters at wayne.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if a better description (rather than stating that the middle of
> a
> > trade name is capitalized) is to say that the space between two words has
> > been omitted in this sort of trade name.  The capital would then be
> > explained by the fact that the single word was once (or similar items
> were
> > once) a compound with all members capitalized as are titles.
> >
> >
> > best to all,
> >
> > Margaret
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------
> > MARGARET E WINTERS
> > Former Provost
> > Professor Emerita - French and Linguistics
> > Wayne State University
> > Detroit, MI  48202
> >
> > mewinters at wayne.edu
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of Dan
> > Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM>
> > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 10:39 AM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Capitalizing in the middle of a trade name
> >
> > What about the 1927 Buick LaSalle?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 10:32 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This practice has been pretty common for years (so common, I can't
> think
> > of
> > > an example), but I was shocked (anglice, mildly surprised) to find this
> > ex.
> > > from 1955. (I've been familiar with the product almost as long, but
> never
> > > thought the one-word name was capitalized in the middle).
> > >
> > > 1955 _Newsweek_ [Google Books]: The tanks have also checked out
> countless
> > > ideas for seaplanes, notably the Martin SeaMaster, the 600-mile-an-hour
> > > multijet bomber which the Navy has just partially revealed as a
> > > revolutionary contender to land-based jets.
> > >
> > > Like the spelling ,the SeaMaster was one of the most futuristic-looking
> > > items of the '50s.
> > >
> > > JL
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