[Ads-l] Oops

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jul 25 21:12:01 EDT 2018


I know "take and" is Inland Northern, but I don't know how widely it's
distributed there or in neighboring areas.  I learned it growing up in SE
Michigan.

Herb

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 2:49 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

> Meant to include the link:
> https://ygdp.yale.edu/phenomena/try-and
>
> > The YGDP page on “try and” does make this point (with citations), and
> mentions other cases of “pseudocoordjination”, such as “be sure and”, “go
> and”, “come and”, “remember and”, etc.  But not “take and”, which may be
> more subject to regional variation.  Thanks for the tip, Herb!
> >
> > I’m not sure if “stand by and” is in this class, and the ones mentioned
> by Goldsmith and Lakoff that I cited in my previous message to the list
> certainly seem quite different in that “and” is not used as a
> complementizer there.
> >
> >
> > LH
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:52 PM Geoffrey Nathan <geoffnathan at wayne.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Please ignore the political message (or not, as you choose) but
> there’s a
> >>> meme floating around on Facebook that straightforwardly violates Ross’s
> >>> Coordinate Noun Phrase Constraint (or any of its modern versions).
> >>> Apologies if you’re not into such syntactic minutiae:
> >>>
> >>> How much treason do you need to stand by and watch Trump commit?
> >>>
> >>> How much treason{i} do you need to [
> >>>    ]
> >>>
> >>>                                    [stand by] and [watch Trump commit
> >>> X{i} ]
> >>>
> >>> (FWIW George Lakoff found a few of these several years ago, but I
> haven’t
> >>> seen one live in a while)
> >>>
> >>> Geoff
> >>>
> >>> Geoffrey S. Nathan
> >>> WSU Information Privacy Officer (Retired)
> >>> Emeritus Professor, Linguistics Program
> >>> http://blogs.wayne.edu/proftech/
> >>> geoffnathan at wayne.edu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
>

------------------------------------------------------------
The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org


More information about the Ads-l mailing list