[Ads-l] "go ape(shit)"

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jun 19 20:05:11 EDT 2018


Thanks for sharing an interesting match, Benjamin. I think that books
in the Hardy Boys series have been periodically updated or partially
rewritten. The book you point to has copyright dates of 1942, 1969,
and 1977. It would be interesting to know when the phrase "go ape
over" was placed into the text.
Garson

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com> wrote:
> 1942: Hardy Boys 21: The Clue of the Broken Blade (outline: Edna Stratemeyer Squier, manuscript: John Button as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hardy_Boys_books <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hardy_Boys_books>).
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> https://bit.ly/2K0ZwbY <https://bit.ly/2K0ZwbY>
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> ——
> Of course we are,” Joe replied. “She’s very beautiful. But we’re not going to go ape over her.”
> ——
>
> Benjamin Barrett
> Formerly of Seattle, WA
>
>> On 19 Jun 2018, at 15:45, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> "Go apeshit" > "go ape" was popular during my high school years, 1950-1954.
>> I first heard it in 1950. I have no idea when it began. "Go ape(shit)" and
>> "(real) george" were already well-established, by the time that I first
>> heard them.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 6:02 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've got a piece up on Slate on the history of "go ape(shit)."
>>>
>>> https://slate.com/culture/2018/06/apeshit-etymology-the-
>>> history-of-the-phrase-behind-beyonce-and-jay-zs-new-single.html
>>>
>>> Antedatings for "go ape" (OED/HDAS 1955, GDoS 1954):
>>>
>>> Desert Hot Springs (Calif.) Sentinel, Oct. 11, 1951, p. 6, col. 3
>>> I hear that the new by-word is "I'm going gorilla" instead of "I'm going
>>> ape."
>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21068697/go_ape/
>>>
>>> Albuquerque (N.M.) Journal, Dec. 6, 1951, p. 13, col. 2
>>> "he went ape" -- to extremes.
>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21069343/go_ape/
>>>
>>> I wasn't able to antedate the earliest HDAS cite for "go apeshit" from Walt
>>> Sheldon's 1952 novel "Troubling of a Star" ("What do I want to fight for?
>>> You going apeshit?"). (JL dated the cite to 1951, presumably as an
>>> approximate date of the novel's writing.)
>>>
>>> --bgz
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>>
>> --
>> -Wilson
>> -----
>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>> -Mark Twain
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