[Ads-l] "go ape(shit)"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jun 19 20:10:24 EDT 2018


I tried unsuccessfully to find an online copy of the 1942 version at both
GB and HathiTrust.

I suspect strongly that "go ape" was added in 1969.

Man, many years ago I came across a Frank Merriwether book copyrighted
something like 1900 but reissued about 1969.

The "reprint" had silently updated many of the original idioms.

JL

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 8:05 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for sharing an interesting match, Benjamin. I think that books
> in the Hardy Boys series have been periodically updated or partially
> rewritten. The book you point to has copyright dates of 1942, 1969,
> and 1977. It would be interesting to know when the phrase "go ape
> over" was placed into the text.
> Garson
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 1942: Hardy Boys 21: The Clue of the Broken Blade (outline: Edna
> Stratemeyer Squier, manuscript: John Button as per
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hardy_Boys_books <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hardy_Boys_books>).
> >
> > https://bit.ly/2K0ZwbY <https://bit.ly/2K0ZwbY>
> >
> > ——
> > Of course we are,” Joe replied. “She’s very beautiful. But we’re not
> going to go ape over her.”
> > ——
> >
> > Benjamin Barrett
> > Formerly of Seattle, WA
> >
> >> On 19 Jun 2018, at 15:45, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Go apeshit" > "go ape" was popular during my high school years,
> 1950-1954.
> >> I first heard it in 1950. I have no idea when it began. "Go ape(shit)"
> and
> >> "(real) george" were already well-established, by the time that I first
> >> heard them.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 6:02 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've got a piece up on Slate on the history of "go ape(shit)."
> >>>
> >>> https://slate.com/culture/2018/06/apeshit-etymology-the-
> >>> history-of-the-phrase-behind-beyonce-and-jay-zs-new-single.html
> >>>
> >>> Antedatings for "go ape" (OED/HDAS 1955, GDoS 1954):
> >>>
> >>> Desert Hot Springs (Calif.) Sentinel, Oct. 11, 1951, p. 6, col. 3
> >>> I hear that the new by-word is "I'm going gorilla" instead of "I'm
> going
> >>> ape."
> >>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21068697/go_ape/
> >>>
> >>> Albuquerque (N.M.) Journal, Dec. 6, 1951, p. 13, col. 2
> >>> "he went ape" -- to extremes.
> >>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21069343/go_ape/
> >>>
> >>> I wasn't able to antedate the earliest HDAS cite for "go apeshit" from
> Walt
> >>> Sheldon's 1952 novel "Troubling of a Star" ("What do I want to fight
> for?
> >>> You going apeshit?"). (JL dated the cite to 1951, presumably as an
> >>> approximate date of the novel's writing.)
> >>>
> >>> --bgz
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> >> --
> >> -Wilson
> >> -----
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> >> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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