[Ads-l] "go ape(shit)"

Barretts Mail mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jun 19 20:21:32 EDT 2018


Thank you! I thought, frankly, that it was odd, but WG’s comment seemed to confirm it :) BB

> On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:05, ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for sharing an interesting match, Benjamin. I think that books
> in the Hardy Boys series have been periodically updated or partially
> rewritten. The book you point to has copyright dates of 1942, 1969,
> and 1977. It would be interesting to know when the phrase "go ape
> over" was placed into the text.
> Garson
> 
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com <mailto:mail.barretts at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 1942: Hardy Boys 21: The Clue of the Broken Blade (outline: Edna Stratemeyer Squier, manuscript: John Button as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hardy_Boys_books <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hardy_Boys_books><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hardy_Boys_books <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hardy_Boys_books>>).
>> 
>> https://bit.ly/2K0ZwbY <https://bit.ly/2K0ZwbY> <https://bit.ly/2K0ZwbY <https://bit.ly/2K0ZwbY>>
>> 
>> ——
>> Of course we are,” Joe replied. “She’s very beautiful. But we’re not going to go ape over her.”
>> ——
>> 
>> Benjamin Barrett
>> Formerly of Seattle, WA
>> 
>>> On 19 Jun 2018, at 15:45, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Go apeshit" > "go ape" was popular during my high school years, 1950-1954.
>>> I first heard it in 1950. I have no idea when it began. "Go ape(shit)" and
>>> "(real) george" were already well-established, by the time that I first
>>> heard them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 6:02 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've got a piece up on Slate on the history of "go ape(shit)."
>>>> 
>>>> https://slate.com/culture/2018/06/apeshit-etymology-the-
>>>> history-of-the-phrase-behind-beyonce-and-jay-zs-new-single.html
>>>> 
>>>> Antedatings for "go ape" (OED/HDAS 1955, GDoS 1954):
>>>> 
>>>> Desert Hot Springs (Calif.) Sentinel, Oct. 11, 1951, p. 6, col. 3
>>>> I hear that the new by-word is "I'm going gorilla" instead of "I'm going
>>>> ape."
>>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21068697/go_ape/
>>>> 
>>>> Albuquerque (N.M.) Journal, Dec. 6, 1951, p. 13, col. 2
>>>> "he went ape" -- to extremes.
>>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21069343/go_ape/
>>>> 
>>>> I wasn't able to antedate the earliest HDAS cite for "go apeshit" from Walt
>>>> Sheldon's 1952 novel "Troubling of a Star" ("What do I want to fight for?
>>>> You going apeshit?"). (JL dated the cite to 1951, presumably as an
>>>> approximate date of the novel's writing.)
>>>> 
>>>> --bgz
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>>> 
>>> --
>>> -Wilson
>>> -----
>>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
>>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>>> -Mark Twain
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