[Ads-l] Have others noticed...

Dennis During dcduring at GMAIL.COM
Wed Dec 9 17:11:07 EST 2020


Searching for "charge|charges|charging|charged for
murdering|robbing|stealing|assualting|abusing|haarboring|endangering|hijacking"
generates plenty of hits from newspapers. That construction is not
obsolete, archaic, or dated. It is easy to imagine someone saying "for" but
then not finding the proper verb -ing-form and inserting a noun.

But, in addition, there are plenty of instances in print newspapers of
"[charge] for assault|murder|endangerment|theft" and even
"drugs|weapons|armed robbery|robbery|mutilation".

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 3:48 PM Baker, John <JBAKER at stradley.com> wrote:

> I don’t think I’ve seen “charged for” (a crime).  If it is in use, it has
> not penetrated legal usage.
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> John Baker
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> I think both are acceptable. At Wiktionary we label definitions (more
> rarely constructions) "obsolete", when most speakers no longer recognize
> the definition, "archaic" when a definition is widely understood, but
> rarely used in contemporary speech and writing, and "dated" when the
> definition is understood, but the users are generally of the older portion
> of the population. "Charged with" does seem to me to even be "dated" yet,
> but I might have missed that. My inner grammar nazi doesn't like "charged
> for".
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 3:15 AM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com<mailto:
> hwgray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > the replacement of "charged _with_ (a crime)" by "charged _for_ (a
> crime)"?
> > Or has language-change rendered yet another aspect of my internal grammar
> > obsolete?
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