[Ads-l] Quote: The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jul 16 14:03:19 EDT 2021


After I tweeted about the quotation attributed to John Gilmore. There
was a response by Howard Rheingold who stated that Gilmore "later
denied being the source". Here is the twitter thread.

Tweet from: Quote Investigator @QuoteResearch
Timestamp: 5:20 PM · Jul 12, 2021
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The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it
Howard Rheingold? John Gilmore? Michael Sattler? Philip Elmer-DeWitt? Anonymous?
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/07/12/censor/
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Tweet from: (((Howard Rheingold))) @hrheingold
Timestamp: 3:47 PM · Jul 15, 2021
https://twitter.com/hrheingold/status/1415759962236542979
Replying to @QuoteResearch
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I quoted Gilmore, but he later denied being the source.
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Tweet from: Quote Investigator @QuoteResearch
Timestamp: 5:04 PM · Jul 15, 2021
Replying to @hrheingold
[Begin excerpt]
Howard Rheingold, Thanks for your comment
I think John Gilmore controls toad.com and the quote is now listed
under "Things I've Said (That People Sometimes Remember)"
http://toad.com/gnu/
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Tweet from: (((Howard Rheingold))) @hrheingold
Timestamp: 5:15 PM · Jul 15, 2021
Replying to @QuoteResearch
[Begin excerpt]
Yes, that's his domain.
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Tweet from: Quote Investigator® @QuoteResearch
Timestamp: 5:05 PM · Jul 15, 2021
Replying to @hrheingold
[Begin excerpt]
Howard Rheingold, Do you have a citation for John Gilmore disclaiming
the quotation?
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Tweet from: (((Howard Rheingold))) @hrheingold
Timestamp: 5:14 PM · Jul 15, 2021
Replying to @QuoteResearch
[Begin excerpt]
No
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:10 PM ADSGarson O'Toole
<adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I received a request to explore the saying in the subject line.
> Wikiquote points to a "Time" magazine article dated December 6, 1993
> which credited techno-activist John Gilmore. The Yale Book of
> Quotations lists an InformationWeek citation dated  November 29, 1993
> which also credited Gilmore.
>
> Now there is a Quote Investigator article:
> https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/07/12/censor/
>
> The earliest evidence I found appeared in a book titled "The Virtual
> Community" by cultural critic Howard Rheingold with a first printing
> dated September 1993. Rheingold also credited Gilmore.
>
> Garson

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