[Ads-l] Quote: The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it

Stanton McCandlish smccandlish at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jul 16 14:09:39 EDT 2021


When I worked at the Electronic Frontier Foundation (which Gilmore
co-founded) for about a decade, he never denied being the quip's originator
during my tenure, and EFF repeated it frequently.  And yes Gilmore runs
toad.com.

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On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:03 AM ADSGarson O'Toole <
adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:

> After I tweeted about the quotation attributed to John Gilmore. There
> was a response by Howard Rheingold who stated that Gilmore "later
> denied being the source". Here is the twitter thread.
>
> Tweet from: Quote Investigator @QuoteResearch
> Timestamp: 5:20 PM · Jul 12, 2021
> [Begin excerpt]
> The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it
> Howard Rheingold? John Gilmore? Michael Sattler? Philip Elmer-DeWitt?
> Anonymous?
> https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/07/12/censor/
> [End excerpt]
>
> Tweet from: (((Howard Rheingold))) @hrheingold
> Timestamp: 3:47 PM · Jul 15, 2021
> https://twitter.com/hrheingold/status/1415759962236542979
> Replying to @QuoteResearch
> [Begin excerpt]
> I quoted Gilmore, but he later denied being the source.
> [End excerpt]
>
> Tweet from: Quote Investigator @QuoteResearch
> Timestamp: 5:04 PM · Jul 15, 2021
> Replying to @hrheingold
> [Begin excerpt]
> Howard Rheingold, Thanks for your comment
> I think John Gilmore controls toad.com and the quote is now listed
> under "Things I've Said (That People Sometimes Remember)"
> http://toad.com/gnu/
> [End excerpt]
>
> Tweet from: (((Howard Rheingold))) @hrheingold
> Timestamp: 5:15 PM · Jul 15, 2021
> Replying to @QuoteResearch
> [Begin excerpt]
> Yes, that's his domain.
> [End excerpt]
>
> Tweet from: Quote Investigator® @QuoteResearch
> Timestamp: 5:05 PM · Jul 15, 2021
> Replying to @hrheingold
> [Begin excerpt]
> Howard Rheingold, Do you have a citation for John Gilmore disclaiming
> the quotation?
> [End excerpt]
>
> Tweet from: (((Howard Rheingold))) @hrheingold
> Timestamp: 5:14 PM · Jul 15, 2021
> Replying to @QuoteResearch
> [Begin excerpt]
> No
> [End excerpt]
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:10 PM ADSGarson O'Toole
> <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I received a request to explore the saying in the subject line.
> > Wikiquote points to a "Time" magazine article dated December 6, 1993
> > which credited techno-activist John Gilmore. The Yale Book of
> > Quotations lists an InformationWeek citation dated  November 29, 1993
> > which also credited Gilmore.
> >
> > Now there is a Quote Investigator article:
> > https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/07/12/censor/
> >
> > The earliest evidence I found appeared in a book titled "The Virtual
> > Community" by cultural critic Howard Rheingold with a first printing
> > dated September 1993. Rheingold also credited Gilmore.
> >
> > Garson
>
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