[Ads-l] glory

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jun 8 19:45:04 EDT 2021


Only when *I* use it.

I'm talking about other people.

So obvious.

JL

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:55 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:

> So “glory” *doesn’t* mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’?
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 2021, at 1:45 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> > 'Great satisfaction in one's own achievements.'  Not in OED, not quite in
> > MW ( "3a a state of great gratification or exaltation //
> > When she's acting she's in her glory").
> >
> > 1992 Russell Duncan, ed. _Blue-Eyed Child of Fortune: The Civil War
> Letters
> > of Colonel Robert Gould Shaw_  (Athens: U. of Ga. Press) 332: Shaw spent
> > the next - and last - month of his life trying to put Darien behind him
> and
> > rekindle the glory and pride he felt while in the 2nd Massachusetts.
> >
> > *Glory* historically means general and lasting acclaim for great
> > achievements benefiting the community.
> >
> > But my impression - for decades - has been that in modern use, it usually
> > means what Duncan clearly means.
> >
> > When people say, "There's no glory in war," they seem to me to be
> referring
> > to some inner, transformational feeling of satisfaction rather than mere
> > national recognition by others. Even Medal of Honor winners - recipients
> of
> > glory in the traditional sense - have said there isn't any in war.
> >
> > JL
> >
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> truth."
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