[Ads-l] glory

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jun 13 19:22:52 EDT 2021


A talking head on Fox News has criticized Dr. Fauci as a "bureaucrat who's
playing his game for [pause] 'GLORY' ?????"

'Undeserved public adulation sought for self-aggrandizement. '

If it were the usual "glory," he wouldn't be "playing his game" and the
"glory" would arguably be deserved.

JL

JL

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 7:45 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Only when *I* use it.
>
> I'm talking about other people.
>
> So obvious.
>
> JL
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:55 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> So “glory” *doesn’t* mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’?
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 8, 2021, at 1:45 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 'Great satisfaction in one's own achievements.'  Not in OED, not quite
>> in
>> > MW ( "3a a state of great gratification or exaltation //
>> > When she's acting she's in her glory").
>> >
>> > 1992 Russell Duncan, ed. _Blue-Eyed Child of Fortune: The Civil War
>> Letters
>> > of Colonel Robert Gould Shaw_  (Athens: U. of Ga. Press) 332: Shaw spent
>> > the next - and last - month of his life trying to put Darien behind him
>> and
>> > rekindle the glory and pride he felt while in the 2nd Massachusetts.
>> >
>> > *Glory* historically means general and lasting acclaim for great
>> > achievements benefiting the community.
>> >
>> > But my impression - for decades - has been that in modern use, it
>> usually
>> > means what Duncan clearly means.
>> >
>> > When people say, "There's no glory in war," they seem to me to be
>> referring
>> > to some inner, transformational feeling of satisfaction rather than mere
>> > national recognition by others. Even Medal of Honor winners -
>> recipients of
>> > glory in the traditional sense - have said there isn't any in war.
>> >
>> > JL
>> >
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>> truth."
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