[Ads-l] mulligan (golf)--warning: speculative

Wed Jun 9 13:28:35 UTC 2021

Thanks to Garson, Dan, and Dave.
Garson. Thanks for the great 1935 article set on the golf course in Ontario just east of Detroit. It’s worth going to the clip, evidently accessible without the personal subscription, which uses “mulligan” again after the transcribed excerpt.
Dan. Thanks for the 1920 prohibition-bemoaning citation(s). From the shore-side of Furman Street in Brooklyn, apparently, loud drunken sounds reportedly had bothered folks in more the upscale neighborhood on the other side of the street. I won’t now speculate much, beyond that “half and half” may be an alcoholic drink. “mulligan” here may or may not be “stew.” Unsettled, for me, yet.
Dave. Thanks for the fuller quotation of what OED had from 1936. Marin Hunter McIntyre (1878-1943) is indeed different than O. O. McIntyre, as I had guessed. As in so much in etymology writing, my guess was mistaken. Yet, maybe quite relevant, something left unmentioned in your post: he was indeed as well a long-time editor and journalist. Interesting to me is that in the 1920s he wrote for Army and Navy journals and for newsreels. Maybe worth a look? The assertion that mulligan “is not a coinage of Marvin McIntyre,” if I may say so, along with much else, remains to be seen.

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I don't know if this is relevant.
In the Brooklyn Eagle, 29 August 1920, in an article about Brooklyn Heights
by Edward V. Riis, I read the following sentence:
"Nor was it born of Maraschino, but half and half and mulligan."
The Maraschino refers to a phrase by George Ade: "Freedom shrieked when
Maraschino fell." found in Cosmopolitan for July 1920.
I have no idea what "half and half and mulligan" means!
DanG

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:21 PM dave at wilton.net <dave at wilton.net> wrote:

>
> The Big Spring (not "Springs" as the OED has it) Daily Herald is on
> Newspaperarchive.com—as has been pointed out before when searching for
> other terms, the package sold to universities evidently does not contain
> all the newspapers. This one doesn't show up when I search through the
> university site, but it does through my personal account.
>
> The McIntyre in question is Marvin McIntyre, an aide to FDR, not the
> newspaper columnist.
>
> A slightly longer excerpt:
>
> “Golfers Try to Lower Marks.” Big Spring Daily Herald (Texas), 5 May 1936,
> 4. Newspaperarchive.com.
>
> "Following McIntyre around a few holes of golf frequently rewards the
> gallery with such irate remarks as 'Nuts, I’ve had 10 strokes on this hole
> already; I’ll pick up.' He seems to find new hop on the next tee—that is,
> until his tee shot.
>
> "Another McIntyre-ism is the use of the “mulligan”—links-ology for a
> second shot employed after a previously dubbed shot. Most McIntyre
> 'mulligans' are worse dubbed that the initial shot, however—which seems to
> serve as a psychological encouragement to the presidential attache.
>
> That's all the article has on "mulligan," but the wording implies that the
> term is already current among golfers and is not a coinage of Marvin
> McIntyre. And it's use in the 1930s to specifically mean a second chance to
> hit a successful shot off the tee, as opposed to anywhere on the course,
> corresponds with an origin in long-ball-hitting baseball.
>
>
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>
> Thanks, Garson; that might lead somewhere.
> Both of the quotations from Dave Wilton yesterday (June 7) are repeats
> from his blog and before that Peter's blog. Been there; read that.
> These are not, imo, slam dunk connections to a golf mulligan. And the Swat
> Milligan name spelling did persist as well; one might reasonably expect at
> least some appearances of that spelling in the proposal. Anyone? I've been
> mistaken before, but I call special pleading.
>
> Not to leave on that--and maybe we agree that a specific golfer named
> Mulligan is not proven as the source--here's what may be a very small lead.
> O. O. McIntyre (1884-1938) was a long-time newspaper columnist, including
> the long-running "New York Day by Day.". OED's first quotation is:
> "1936 Big Springs (Texas) Daily Herald 5 May 4/5 Another McIntyre-ism is
> the use of the ‘mulligan’—links-ology for a second shot employed after a
> previously dubbed shot."
> Given excellent researchers here (I've failed on this so far): which
> McIntyre column (if column it was) and what date? Please?
>
> Stephen Goranson
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