[Ads-l] Pied-pipe a preposition, but don't pied-pipe a particle (i.e. "up with which I will not put")

Shapiro, Fred fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU
Sun Jun 27 17:42:45 EDT 2021


And, of course, Neal, you should make the correction in your Grammar Girl piece.

Fred Shapiro


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Subject: Re: Pied-pipe a preposition, but don't pied-pipe a particle (i.e. "up with which I will not put")

You may want to correct the record, Neal -- Quote Investigator is the site
of Garson O'Toole, not Fred Shapiro.

--bgz

On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 3:19 PM Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net> wrote:

> In this piece for Grammar Girl, I cover the "up with which I will not
> put" joke, with nods to Fred Shapiro and John Robert Ross:
>
>
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.quickanddirtytips.com%2Feducation%2Fgrammar%2Fup-with-which-i-will-not-put&data=04%7C01%7Cfred.shapiro%40yale.edu%7C2cbd6d3a0bd24f6ee5af08d939a1856a%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637604188158450237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ceOwpWz%2Fp5w%2Frz2KBGhUnN5IUmKuNtPJFETgm6N7anI%3D&reserved=0
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> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fquoteinvestigator.com%2F2012%2F07%2F04%2Fchurchill-preposition%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cfred.shapiro%40yale.edu%7C2cbd6d3a0bd24f6ee5af08d939a1856a%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637604188158450237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=v4GxaL1AbkUIkTwqmIU9m1RMEdjbjL0wUJHyIWGvAN0%3D&reserved=0
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> The quick, dirty, and alliterative rule that did NOT make it into the
> final script: Pied-pipe a preposition, but don't pied-pipe a particle!
>
>

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