[Ads-l] Pied-pipe a preposition, but don't pied-pipe a particle (i.e. "up with which I will not put")

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jun 27 18:13:47 EDT 2021


Thanks for your generous remarks, Fred. You have been the pioneer
leader in the remarkable advances achieved via database-mediated
research in excavating linguistic history. Your new book will be an
intellectual and scholarly blockbuster.

Garson

Fred Shapiro wrote:
> Yes, Neal, much as I would love to be the author of the magnificent Quote Investigator website -- which I consider to be the single greatest website of any kind on the World Wide Web -- that honor belongs to Garson O'Toole.  My forthcoming book, The New Yale Book of Quotations, benefits greatly from discoveries made by Garson, and he appears as the foremost thankee in the front matter as well as being credited in many of the entries.
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> Fred Shapiro
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> Subject: Re: Pied-pipe a preposition, but don't pied-pipe a particle (i.e. "up with which I will not put")
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> You may want to correct the record, Neal -- Quote Investigator is the site
> of Garson O'Toole, not Fred Shapiro.
>
> --bgz
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 3:19 PM Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> > In this piece for Grammar Girl, I cover the "up with which I will not
> > put" joke, with nods to Fred Shapiro and John Robert Ross:
> >
> >
> > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.quickanddirtytips.com%2Feducation%2Fgrammar%2Fup-with-which-i-will-not-put&data=04%7C01%7Cfred.shapiro%40yale.edu%7C2cbd6d3a0bd24f6ee5af08d939a1856a%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637604188158450237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ceOwpWz%2Fp5w%2Frz2KBGhUnN5IUmKuNtPJFETgm6N7anI%3D&reserved=0
> >
> > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fquoteinvestigator.com%2F2012%2F07%2F04%2Fchurchill-preposition%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cfred.shapiro%40yale.edu%7C2cbd6d3a0bd24f6ee5af08d939a1856a%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637604188158450237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=v4GxaL1AbkUIkTwqmIU9m1RMEdjbjL0wUJHyIWGvAN0%3D&reserved=0
> >
> > The quick, dirty, and alliterative rule that did NOT make it into the
> > final script: Pied-pipe a preposition, but don't pied-pipe a particle!
> >
> >
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