An-lang Digest, Vol 98, Issue 7

Stef Spronck stephan.spronck at ANU.EDU.AU
Sat Aug 13 03:34:30 UTC 2011


Dear all,

Following that observation: Chikako Senge and I are preparing a paper about irrealis marking in a number of Northern Australian languages and syncretism between irrealis and imperative morphology seems to be occurring in a number of (Pama-Nyungan) Aboriginal Australian languages as well.

Best,
Stef

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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 18:46:42 +0000
> From: "Kroeger, Paul" <paul_kroeger at gial.edu>
> Subject: Re: [An-lang] Irrealis imperative? (somewhat OT)
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> In Urim (PNG, non-Austronesian), I believe the irrealis form is 
> the standard way to mark an imperative.
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> -- Paul Kroeger
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> Subject: [An-lang] Irrealis imperative? (somewhat OT)
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> An interesting, possibly amusing, question has arisen in quite 
> another context: Does anyone know if, in languages with a well-
> marked/well-defined irrealis mode, can there be an "irrealis 
> imperative"?
> Roger Mills
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> From: Nick Thieberger <thien at unimelb.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [An-lang] Irrealis imperative? (somewhat OT)
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> In South Efate (Oceanic, Vanuatu) the irrealis is obligatorily marked
> in pronoun clitics and in a set of verbs which alternate initial 
> p-
> (realis) with f- (irrealis). The imperative uses the irrealis forms.
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> Nick
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> On 13 August 2011 04:21, Roger Mills <rfmilly at msn.com> wrote:
> > An interesting, possibly amusing, question has arisen in quite 
> another> context: Does anyone know if, in languages with a well-
> marked/well-defined
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Stef Spronck
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