xx issue

Brian MacWhinney macw at cmu.edu
Wed Aug 1 02:24:07 UTC 2012


Dear Melissa,

    The CHSTRING changes each xx to one xxx.  MOR is excluding xxx from the %mor line.  So, if you compute MLU from the %mor line, which is the right way to do this, then it will be excluded.  Are you trying to include unintelligible words in MLU?  That would be contrary to the guidelines from Brown (1957).  If you want to go against those guidelines and count unintelligible words as real words, then you could use one of the special form markers for this purpose.  

- Brian 

On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Melissa Senor <melissasenor at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian,
>  
> Yes the problem is that we would like to be able to differentiate between an unintelligible word (xx) and unintelligible sounds/babble (xxx) and with the new changes we are not able to. We wanted to find out if with the new change in coding xxx, if xxx still remains not counted by MLT/MLU or if it took on the characteristics of xx and it IS counted towards MLT/MLU. Also by using the change string code that you sent me, if all instances of xx are changed into xxx, or grouped together and changed to xxx?
>  
> ie. xx xx --> xxx or xx xx ---> xxx xxx.
>  
> In particular, the first question is important, since if it IS counted in the MLT/MLU then we can use it as we used to use xx (an unintelligible word). If not, then is there a different way to code it rather than using xxx since we want it counted when we run our analysis.
>  
> Melissa Senor
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Brian MacWhinney <macw at cmu.edu> wrote:
> Dear Melissa,
>      I'm not sure I understand the question, but I am guessing that maybe the problem is that we recently changed the code for unintelligible words so that only xxx is allowed and xx is no longer allowed.  Is that your question?  If so, please just use xxx for unintelligible words.  If you want to mark the fact that there are two unintelligible words, then please use xxx xxx.
> 
> --Brian MacWhinney
> 
> 
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Language Development Lab <melissasenor at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hello!
>>  
>> I have a CLAN question. Is there a way to code an intelligible word on the independent speaker tier that is not xx?
>>  
>> Melissa Senor
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