Freq in a bilingual conversation

A Cristia alecristia at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 21:21:43 UTC 2015


Leonid,

Thank you so much for the response - I see now how the syntax changes 
between the two commands you first mentioned.

Surprisingly, though, I'm still getting zero counts with both:
freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
freq +s"<- zho>" angela.cha

For instance, on 
http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/
freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha

Fri Jul 10 12:08:27 2015 freq (21-Apr-2015) is conducting analyses on: ALL 
speaker tiers **************************************** 
*From file "angela.cha"* 
<http://childes.talkbank.org/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/angela.cha> 
Speaker: *AUN: ------------------------------ 0 Total number of different 
item types used 0 Total number of items (tokens) Speaker: *CHI: 
------------------------------ 0 Total number of different item types used 
0 Total number of items (tokens) Speaker: *UNC: 
------------------------------ 0 Total number of different item types used 
0 Total number of items (tokens) Speaker: *MOT: 
------------------------------ 0 Total number of different item types used 
0 Total number of items (tokens)

Yet on lines 31, 174, 303, etc, there are some [- zho].

Thank you once more,

-alex

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 11:50:06 AM UTC-5, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote:
>
> Alex,
>
> I want to add one more command line which will count zho words located 
> only on utterances that have all or most words spoken in zho language:
>
> freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
>
>
> Leonid. 
>
> On Jul 9, 2015, at 00:16, Leonid Spektor <spe... at andrew.cmu.edu 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> Alex,
>
> Unfortunately the manual has combined two mutually exclusive options into 
> one. The correct commands for example file angela.cha from CUHK corpus are:
>
> freq +l +s*@s:zho angela.cha
>
> freq +s"<- zho>" angela.cha
>
>
> Combination of options "+l +s*@s:zho" will locate all words spoken in zho 
> language. The option +s"<- zho> will only locate utterances that have 
> either all or most words spoken in zho language.
>
> Leonid.
>
>
>  
> On Jul 8, 2015, at 21:57, A Cristia <alecr... at gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> This is an old thread, but relevant to my own questions, as I'm also 
> trying to get some freq counts in bilingual conversations.
>
> The CLAN manual (p. 95) states:
>
> freq +l +s"<- spa>" *.cha 
>
> However, when I run it on my file, I don't get anything (counts of zero). 
> Note that 
>
> freq +l *.cha 
>
> does yield the expected results (frequencies by language by speaker). I 
> thought there may be something wrong with my file, so I downloaded the CUHK 
> corpus, because the "angela.cha" file has some '[- zho]' and tried
>
> freq +l +s"<- zho>" *.cha 
>
> freq +l +s"[- zho]" *.cha 
>
> Still zero counts. I also tried online:
> http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/
>
> freq +l +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
>
> Wed Jul 8 21:55:43 2015 freq (21-Apr-2015) is conducting analyses on: ALL 
> speaker tiers **************************************** 
> *From file "angela.cha"* 
> <http://childes.talkbank.org/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/angela.cha> 
> Speaker: *AUN: ------------------------------ 0 Total number of different 
> item types used 0 Total number of items (tokens) Speaker: *CHI: 
> ------------------------------ 0 Total number of different item types used 
> 0 Total number of items (tokens) Speaker: *UNC: 
> ------------------------------ 0 Total number of different item types used 
> 0 Total number of items (tokens) Speaker: *MOT: 
> ------------------------------ 0 Total number of different item types used 
> 0 Total number of items (tokens)
>
>  And the same issues with the [ version.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Alex Cristia
>  
>
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