Questions about Punctuation , CHECK, text files, converting files

Elnaz Kia ek325 at nau.edu
Sat Jul 24 23:51:10 UTC 2021


Dear Leonid,

I cannot thank you enough for answering all my questions. I tried all you
said and they all worked.

Here is what I did to save .cha files in multiple sub-directories as .txt
files, without the bullets and it worked perfectly. Huge time saver!
chstring +re +cbullets.cut *.cha
ren +f +re *.chstr.cex *.txt

Regarding the @Comment issue, you were right. The problem was having <tab>
and space together.

Thank you again,
Elnaz


Elnaz Kia, Ph.D. (she, her, hers)

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On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 1:55 PM Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please see answers below in your email.
>
> Leonid.
>
> On Jul 23, 2021, at 15:03, Elnaz Kia <ek325 at nau.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello again everyone,
>
> Sorry for bombarding you with questions. I have categorized my questions
> into 4 sections. I would appreciate any tips on any of the questions.
>
> *1. Punctuation Marks*
>
> On the 2021 CLAN and CHAT manuals, some punctuation marks have spaces
> before them and some don't. Is there a specific reason for that? The CHAT
> manual (2021, p.102) says: "For clarity, final punctuation on the main line
> is preceded by a space."
>
> Q1: Should I add spaces before punctuation marks or not?
>
> Punctuation marks that start with '+' character must have space character
> before them. Basic punctuations, like . ! ?, do not need space
> characters, but having space character will not make any difference.
>
> *Q2*: I have added spaces so far. If the answer to Q1 is no, then how can
> I remove spaces before punctuation marks in CLAN?
>
> I would suggest to leave space characters. They do add clarity.
>
> *2. Creating text files from .cha files*
>
> I wonder how everyone creates text files from the chat files. I do a
> simple save as .txt and then add angle brackets around the header lines so
> that I can later use the text files with concordance apps. My questions are:
>
> *Q3: *how can I create text files (with headers) in batch.
>
> All CHAT, i.e. .cha files, are already regular text files encoded in
> UTF-8 format. All you have to do is to change the file extension.
>
> *Q4: *How can I save a .cha file as .txt, without showing the bullets?
>
> You can use command "chstring +cbullets.cut *.cha" to remove bullets from
> all *.cha files. CLAN is distributed with special script files, like
> bullets.cut, that are used to do file cleanups. Those files are located in
> CLAN/lib/fixes folder
>
> *Q5: *Is it possible to use FLO and instead of creating the %flo line,
> directly apply the changes to the speaker line?
>
> Use FLO command with +d option. This will also do what you want in *Q4:*
>
> * 3. Running CHECK*
>
> When I run check +re *.cha, I get the following error. However, when I
> open the file, it passes check (it doesn't have any problems with having
> space after @comment).
>
> *Q6:* Why is that?
>
>  @Comment:
>
> Illegal character '<space>' found in tier text.
>
> This is possibly because you an have an extra space character in the
> comment line. Or right after the colon character. Tab character must be
> after the colon. Because space characters are invisible it is very
> difficult to highlight or locate the error. Please email that file to me
> directly to see what is wrong and maybe changing error message.
>
> *4. Changing File Names and Extensions*
>
> *Q7: *How can I automatically change the file name and extensions for all
> the files that end in -silent.aif
>
> Example: f0078c07raa_1-silent.aif --> f0078c07raa_1.mp3
>
> I would very much not recommend you do that, because .aif stands for AIFF
> audio media encoding format. It is not compressed format like .mp3 and if
> you change the extension, then this audio file might not be playable by
> sound players. You need to use sound editor to re-encode the audio file
> from one format to another. We use Amadeus Pro for sound editing. Other
> popular sound editor is Audacity.
>
> If you want to just remove the -silent part from filename, then you can
> use ren *-silent.aif *.aif command.
>
>  I truly appreciate your help.
>
> P.S. I use CLAN v05 (Feb, 2021).
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Elnaz
>
>
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