error running MLU in Italian

Fri Nov 26 16:27:43 UTC 2021

Hi Kelly,

	I assume that you meant "@s:eng" words are still appearing in the output. The "@eng" form is not legal. Try adding "-s*@s:eng" option to your command line to stop "@s:eng" words counted in the analyses. If this does not work, then I need an example of your transcript file to see exactly how do you code language attributes. Please email it to me directly at spektor at andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>.

Leonid.

> On Nov 26, 2021, at 10:48, Kelly P <kelly.paciaroni at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Leonid,
> 
> Thank you so much!  That worked.  I ran the freq and everything in English is still appearing at @eng though it isn't being counted in the "total number of different item types used."  Is there any way to get English not to appear at all in the analyses?
> 
> Thank you again and be well,
> Kelly
> 
> On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 6:47:34 PM UTC-5 Leonid Spektor wrote:
> Kelly,
> 
> 	All language precodes have to have space character between the '-' character and the language name. In your example it would be [- eng]. The tier would then be:
> 
> *CLE:	[- eng] how do you say sad ?
> 
> Also, all post codes have to have space characters after '+' character, like so [+ code]. In fact most codes, in between [...], have to have space character after the first code identifying character(s).
> 
> 
> 
> Leonid.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 17:02, Kelly Paciaroni <kelly.p... at gmail.com <applewebdata://6FB2D7A4-04C1-4B17-A923-ECF126DB2F40>> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> Thank you so much for the suggestions.  I read that section of the manual but now when I run a check on the transcript, the system says that the symbol is not declared in the depfile for lines like this one:
>> 
>> *CLE:	[-eng] how do you say sad ?
>> 
>> I listed the languages at the beginning of the document in this way:
>> 
>> @Languages:	ita, eng
>> 
>> Do you know what I am doing incorrectly?
>> Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving!
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:53 PM Brian Macwhinney <ma... at andrew.cmu.edu <applewebdata://6FB2D7A4-04C1-4B17-A923-ECF126DB2F40>> wrote:
>> Dear Kelly,
>>      If you want to conduct analyses on one language in a code-switched corpus, you need to mark up your transcript in accord with the principles in section 16.1 of the CHAT manual on “Code-switching”.  Once you have done this, you can use the +s switch in programs like FREQ or KWAL to pull out utterances with codes like [- ita] or [- eng] at the beginning of utterances, or perhaps words with markings such as @s.
>> 
>> — Brian MacWhinney
>> 
>> > On Nov 21, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Kelly P <kelly.p... at gmail.com <applewebdata://6FB2D7A4-04C1-4B17-A923-ECF126DB2F40>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi Everyone!
>> > 
>> > Thanks for adding me to your group.  I am working on a series of classroom recordings that have both Italian and English.  I am totally new to this software and I tried to look through the manuals and old chats but I can't figure out the answer.
>> > 
>> > Is there a way that I can get the system to analyze Italian only?  Right now the freq and MLU analyses are picking up both languages but we are only interested in Italian.
>> > 
>> > Thank you so much for any help you can give!
>> > Be well,
>> > 
>> > Kelly Paciaroni
>> > 
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