error running MLU in Italian

Kelly P kelly.paciaroni at gmail.com
Fri Nov 26 15:48:56 UTC 2021


Hi Leonid,

Thank you so much!  That worked.  I ran the freq and everything in English 
is still appearing at @eng though it isn't being counted in the "total 
number of different item types used."  Is there any way to get English not 
to appear at all in the analyses?

Thank you again and be well,
Kelly

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 6:47:34 PM UTC-5 Leonid Spektor wrote:

> Kelly,
>
> All language precodes have to have space character between the '-' 
> character and the language name. In your example it would be [- eng]. The 
> tier would then be:
>
> *CLE: [- eng] how do you say sad ?
>
> Also, all post codes have to have space characters after '+' character, 
> like so [+ code]. In fact most codes, in between [...], have to have space 
> character after the first code identifying character(s).
>
>
>
> Leonid. 
>
> On Nov 24, 2021, at 17:02, Kelly Paciaroni <kelly.p... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> Thank you so much for the suggestions.  I read that section of the manual 
> but now when I run a check on the transcript, the system says that the 
> symbol is not declared in the depfile for lines like this one:
>
> *CLE: [-eng] how do you say sad ?
>
> I listed the languages at the beginning of the document in this way:
>
> @Languages: ita, eng
>
> Do you know what I am doing incorrectly?
> Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving!
>
> Kelly
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:53 PM Brian Macwhinney <ma... at andrew.cmu.edu> 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Kelly,
>>      If you want to conduct analyses on one language in a code-switched 
>> corpus, you need to mark up your transcript in accord with the principles 
>> in section 16.1 of the CHAT manual on “Code-switching”.  Once you have done 
>> this, you can use the +s switch in programs like FREQ or KWAL to pull out 
>> utterances with codes like [- ita] or [- eng] at the beginning of 
>> utterances, or perhaps words with markings such as @s.
>>
>> — Brian MacWhinney
>>
>> > On Nov 21, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Kelly P <kelly.p... at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi Everyone!
>> > 
>> > Thanks for adding me to your group.  I am working on a series of 
>> classroom recordings that have both Italian and English.  I am totally new 
>> to this software and I tried to look through the manuals and old chats but 
>> I can't figure out the answer.
>> > 
>> > Is there a way that I can get the system to analyze Italian only?  
>> Right now the freq and MLU analyses are picking up both languages but we 
>> are only interested in Italian.
>> > 
>> > Thank you so much for any help you can give!
>> > Be well,
>> > 
>> > Kelly Paciaroni
>> > 
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