Bilingual MOR not running in CLANc

Rachel Romeo rachelromeo at gmail.com
Sat Jul 2 03:20:38 UTC 2022


Thanks all! Our files were transcribed correctly, and I had simply swapped
the + for - (got tripped up by the page break in the MOR manual). Works
perfectly now, thanks!

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 9:09 PM Brian Macwhinney <macw at cmu.edu> wrote:

> Dear Rachel,
>
>     Yes, this is all correct. Section 16.1 of the CHAT manual on
> code-switching also explains this.
>
> — Brian
>
> > On Jul 1, 2022, at 7:27 PM, Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rachel,
> >
> >       I think the problem is with +s option. The +s"[- eng]" option
> tells MOR to run only on utterances that have "[- eng]" pre-code.
> >
> > If your file is English-dominant, then to run MOR on only English
> utterances you need an option -s"[- spa]", if you want MOR to run only on
> Spanish utterances, then you need an option +s"[- spa]". In
> English-dominant data file there should not be any "[- eng]" pre-codes. If
> your data file has both "[- eng]" and "[- spa]" pre-codes, then +s"[- spa]"
> option will tell MOR to run only on Spanish utterances and +s"[- eng]" will
> tell MOR to run only on English utterances, but it is best not to mix those
> two pre-codes in the same data file.
> >
> > If this still doesn't work, then please email one of your data files to
> me at spektor at cmu.edu.
> >
> >
> > Leonid.
> >
> >> On Jul 1, 2022, at 18:28, Rachel Romeo <rachelromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I am working with a bilingual English & Spanish corpora, and I'm using
> the newest version of CLANc (May 2022). When I run MOR on the second
> language, it runs fine with no errors, but the output files are not showing
> the %mor and %gra tiers for utterances that are fully in the L2 (e.g.,
> lines with [- spa] for an English-dominant file). Additionally, individual
> words tagged with @s are getting tagged as expected, but it seems to not be
> happy with full utterances in the L2.
> >>
> >> For clarity's sake:
> >> I've got my mor grammar set to spa. Command:
> >> mor +s"[- eng]" EnglishDominantFile.cha
> >>
> >> Will give me output like this:
> >>
> >> *MOT: [- spa] no pero no pegas +//.
> >> ######No dependent tiers given
> >>
> >> *MOT: mira at s this is a little piggie .
> >> %mor: L2|mira pro:dem|this cop|be&3S det:art|a adj|little n|pig-DIM .
> >> %gra: 1|3|LINK 2|3|SUBJ 3|0|ROOT 4|6|DET 5|6|MOD 6|3|PRED 7|3|PUNCT
> >> ######seems to do fine with individual words
> >>
> >> Am I doing something wrong?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Rachel
> >>
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> >> Rachel R. Romeo, PhD, CCC-SLP
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> >> Department of Human Development and Quantitative Methodology
> >> Department of Hearing and Speech Sciences, by courtesy
> >> Program in Neuroscience and Cognitive Science
> >> University of Maryland College Park
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*Rachel R. Romeo, PhD, CCC-SLP*
Assistant Professor
Department of Human Development and Quantitative Methodology
Department of Hearing and Speech Sciences, by courtesy
Program in Neuroscience and Cognitive Science
University of Maryland College Park
*education.umd.edu/leadlab* <https://education.umd.edu/leadlab>
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