Valley of 10,000 Smokes (was: Wawa placenames)

[Mike Cleven]

>Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:47:58 -0800
>To: David Robertson <drobert at TINCAN.TINCAN.ORG>
>From: Mike Cleven <ironmtn at bigfoot.com>
>Subject: Re: Valley of 10,000 Smokes (was:  Wawa placenames)
>In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.95.981207213451.25110C-100000 at tincan.tincan.org>
>
>At 09:49 PM 12/7/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>Lhush san, kanawi lhaksta!  Qhata msayka?
>>
>>Pus lhush kEmtEks:
>>I wonder:
>>
>>Uk nim "tukamonak tukamonak smok" khapa Alaska ili'i, yaka chaku khapa uk
>>ChInUk lalang?
>>The name "Valley of 10,000 Smokes" in Alaska, could it have come from the
>>Jargon?
>
>Wake kumtux, pe naika tumtum wake.  Naika kumtux kunjih lamonti
"Novarupta" mamook piah ahnkuttie, pe okook lamonti mitlite kopa sun
illahee, wake kopa Tlingit-illahee yukwa man mamook Chinook wawa.  "Valley
of Ten Thousand Smokes", naika tumtum, mitlite boston lalang........
>>
>>Nayka wawa ukuk kiwa uk "smok" khapa ChInUk yaka tIki wawa "smoke" or
>>"clouds" khapa BastEn lalang.
>>I ask this because "smok" in Chinook means either "smoke" or "clouds" in
>>English.
>
>Nawitka; pe nem ahnkuttie mahsh kopa boston lalang......(naika tumtum)
>
>>
>>TIlXEm wawa, ukuk IlI'i khapa Alaska, yawa hayu paya-lamotey, pi wEXt hayu
>>snas-smok khapa saXali.
>>They say in this place in Alaska there's a lot of volcanoes, and also a
>>lot of rainclouds in the sky.
>
>Yahwa ahnkuttie mitlite hiyu "fumaroles" (smoking holes) - tlawhop kopa
illahee kahkwa hyas-eena house (muskrat house), mamook hiyu smoke pe piah
wind (hot air).......Alta mitlite tenas tenas fumaroles.....ikt, moxt.....
>
>>Kakwa,
>>So,
>>
>>wik Xawgalh ukuk nim yaka tIki wawa uk makwst Ikta...
>>it's not impossible that this name means both things...
>>
>>qhanchi -- tL'unEs wEXt uk Alaska sawash lalang wawa dret kakwa.
>>however -- maybe the native languages in Alaska talk the same way.
>>
>>Lhaksta kEmtEks?
>>Who knows (Michael Krauss)?
>
>Lamonti Novarupta mitlite kopa Aleut illahee, nawitka?  Poos Kodiak?
Ahnkuttie mitlite Chinook wawa kopa okook illahee?
>