Yay I finally read Franchere's word list!

[phil cash cash]

this is interesting.  maybe there is some areal thing going on here as
Warm Springs Sahaptin (as well as other Sahaptin speaking groups on the
Columbia R.) shows the verb root /tq'ix/ "wish, desire, want".

later,
phil cash cash (cayuse/nez perce)
UofA

On Sep 6, 2004, at 2:28 PM, David Robertson wrote:

> [I thought I'd share part of an off-list note I sent to one of our list
> members.  --  Dave R.]
>
> Franchere's "Ste Kech" ("I love you") isn't what we know as standard
> CJ,
> but it's recognizable as containing (at least) the archaic CJ form most
> commonly written as <tikegh> by anglophones, phonetically
> ~  /tqEX/, "want/like/love".
>
> The <s> which begins Franchere's form may be simply a typographical
> error;
> there are others in his wordlist, since the typesetters probably didn't
> speak CJ.  If this is a "typo", then maybe we're just looking at
> standard
> CJ <tikegh>.
>
> If it's not a "typo", maybe it's a Chinookan pronoun, though I have a
> strong hunch it's not.  Though I'm no expert on Chinookan grammar, I'd
> expect 2 distinct pronouns (a subject & an object) to be incorporated
> into
> a transitive verb, and I would guess that one of those pronouns ought
> to
> look like /n/ (compare 1st person singular /nayka/ in CJ, which comes
> from
> Chinookan).  In fact, Boas in his "The Chinook Indian Language" which
> I've
> just remembered is sitting next to me, says that an "I-thee" form will
> contain /-yam-/ (page 584).
>
> Another possibility to consider is that this form, also atypically for
> standard CJ but perhaps indicative of an early pidgin CJ with an
> unstable
> grammar (see next paragraph), contains French <je> or <je t'> +
> <tikegh>!
>
> George Lang, who has a website through the Univ. of Alberta but who has
> just become a dean at U. of Ottawa, has written a bit about early CJ as
> a "pidgin Chinook[an]".  Many of Franchere's forms, as you can see,
> differ
> significantly from those found in standard (=later) CJ, in having the
> incorporated subject & object pronouns & verbal prefixes & suffixes.
> Perhaps <Ste Kech> is one of these pidgin Chinookan forms.
>
> Dave Robertson
> Grad student, Department of Linguistics
> University of Victoria, BC, Canada
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