Show random attribute from list

Spencer S undressmerobot at gmail.com
Tue Jul 22 23:07:20 UTC 2008


Shin-Yi: That sounds like it would work, though I have not tried it. I
was able to get help from someone else in the lab here, and here is
what I wound up doing, which is pretty simple to implement:

List1:

Weight		Nested			StimA		StimB		CorrectAnswer
10			HomophoneList		[Main]		[Word2]		1
10			HomophoneList		[Main]		[Word3]		2

And then HomophoneList contains all of the word triplets in three
columns (Main/Word2/Word3). So for 20 word pairs, this would show 10
as Main/Word2 and 10 with Main/Word3, and also allow you to set a
Correct Answer if you are collecting responses.

Thanks for all the answers!.

On Jul 14, 1:32 pm, ShinYi <shinyi.f... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am not sure if I understood this correctly. However, there might be
> two
> problems in this procedure. 1. The MAIN word might not match the
> corresponding WORD2/WORD3. 2. This can not prevent both homophone
> pairs
> presented in the experiment.
>
> The procedure I have in mind is two level nested lists.
> First nested list has one column, SELECTWORD and two rows, [WORD2] and
> [WORD3].
> Second nested list will be nested in the first nested list. It has two
> columns, WORD2 and WORD3. They are homophone pairs.
> In this way, the first nested list will select either one of the
> homophone
> pairs and the second nested list will provide the stimuli.
>
> FYI,
>
> Shin-Yi
>
> On Jul 10, 12:41 pm, "ben robinson" <baltimore.... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > you need one top-level list object, List1, with 2 rows and two columns.
>
> > first, the columns:
> > column 1 = FirstWord
> > column 2 = SecondWord
> > under FirstWord you'll want to write [Word1]
> > under SecondWord write [Word2]
>
> > now the rows:
> > both rows will call run the same procedure, ShowWordsProc.
> > row 1's nested lists = MainWordList and WordListA
> > row 2's nested lists = MainWordList and WordListB
>
> > in MainWordList you'll need to add a column called Word1
> > in both WordListA and WordListB you'll need to add a column called Word2
>
> > add all you main words to the column, Word1
> > and add all your list2 and list3 words to the column Word2 in WordListA and
> > WordListB, respectively.
>
> > set all the lists to select at random.
>
> > this should do it.
>
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Spencer S <undressmero... at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Ben, thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately (and I did not make this
> > > clear originally), I am looking to pair MAIN with ONLY either WORD2 or
> > > WORD3. That is, each MAIN word is shown once, with either WORD2 or
> > > WORD3, such that 50% of the trials have the MAIN word shown with
> > > WORD2, and 50% have it with WORD3. For instance, if BORED and BEARD
> > > were selected, then BORED and BOARD would not be shown later.
>
> > > Sorry if I am not explaining this well.
>
> > > On Jul 10, 10:43 am, Ben Meyers <benjamin.d.mey... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > There are a couple different ways you could do this.
>
> > > > The solution that I think is least complicated would be to make one
> > > > list randomly call between two procedures.  The only item in each of
> > > > those procedures would be a list with two additional attributes:
> > > > MAIN, WORD, where the WORD attribute contains the corresponding word
> > > > to each MAIN.  Then you have your presentation procedure and you're
> > > > done.
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 4:11 pm, Spencer S <undressmero... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > What I have is a list of homophones, like the following:
>
> > > > > MAIN            WORD2           WORD3
>
> > > > > bored           board           beard
> > > > > cede            seed            seen
> > > > > sell                    cell                    call
> > > > > cent                    sent            seat
>
> > > > > I want to show pairs of words such that the MAIN word is always shown,
> > > > > and then either WORD2 or WORD3 is chosen to be shown at random. Half
> > > > > the time WORD2 would be shown, half the time WORD3 would be shown.
>
> > > > > For example, using the above words, a sample set of trials would be:
>
> > > > > StimA   StimB
>
> > > > > bored   beard
> > > > > cede    seed
> > > > > sell            cell
> > > > > cent            seat
>
> > > > > Or: MAIN/WORD3, MAIN/WORD2, MAIN/WORD2, MAIN/WORD3.
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