E-Prime on a VM
Rick O'Gorman
rickogorman at gmail.com
Sat Apr 18 11:34:11 UTC 2009
Hi Greg,
I don't remember any problems with installing E-Prime on my VM per se,
only with getting it to see the dongle, which was a pain. This was
partly because I had to learn how to get Virtualbox to allow the guest
OS (WinXP) to see the USB dongle. The first time I did this, Windows
also didn't try to find drivers, so I used Aladdin's HASP driver, but
the wrong kind (but they still worked). The second time (I had to
reinstall when we upgraded from 2.x beta to 2.x gold) I used the right
ones. My bootcamp also failed to look for drivers with the beta (a
pattern?) but did find them for the gold install.
I think both times I copied across the install file rather than just run
it from the CD--maybe that's a factor?
Are you using VB, or one of the commercial options (Fusion, Parallels)?
Rick
Greg Osenbach wrote:
> Was there anything special you had to do to get e-prime to install in a
> virtual box virtual machine? I have tried installing it in my virtual
> machine several times and it always crashes during the install...
>
> Greg
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Rick O'Gorman <rickogorman at gmail.com
> <mailto:rickogorman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Liwenna:
>
> As an aside to your topic, I also have a Mac. You can get a program
> called Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org <http://www.virtualbox.org>)
> for *free* from Sun which does
> the same kind of thing as Parallels. Its a little more techy but I
> didn't have too much trouble setting it up. You still need a legal
> Windows copy, but probably you can get a discounted copy from your univ.
>
> I run E-Prime on that setup and it works fine. Getting the dongle
> recognised was a little tricky, as you have to tell Virtualbox to access
> the USB dongle and may also have to get drivers for it (one time I did,
> the next time I didn't as Windows found some itself, not the ones I used
> previously)--I got them from
> http://www.aladdin.com/support/hasp/enduser.aspx, using the HASP HL ones
> I think (I tried both options there). It might depend on whether you use
> an individual ddongle, network dongle or no dongle (if that's an
> option).
>
> The E-Prime people (PST) are completely unhelpful in this regard, as
> 'they don't support Macs' which is a total cop-out. They went so far as
> to deny any responsibility to help me with my bootcamp Windows
> install--even though its running natively and is as legitimate a version
> of Windows as any other. I found that a disgrace and frankly has made me
> keep a firm eye out for E-Prime alternatives, when the chance presents
> itself.
>
> Rick
>
> liwenna wrote:
> > Hello Frank,
> >
> > Thanks for your quick reply! It would be great if you could try the
> > numbers-thing. At my university I can only 'run' the au3 scripts, and
> > edit them in notepad, but in order to do that I first need to figure
> > out the language... My guess is that if you get the program to run
> > orderly, editing the code is fare more simple, right? But as
> said, ICT
> > guys won't let me. At home I also can't do that as I am the proud
> > owner of a Mac, which I really love but sometimes it's a pain
> (and yes
> > I should get myself some parallels).
> >
> > I am homeworking today but I'll try the script you posted first thing
> > on monday!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > liwenna.
> >
> > On Apr 16, 8:55 pm, frankbosco <goo... at frankbosco.com
> <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>> wrote:
> >> Hi Liwenna,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your message. Re: having autoit automatically insert
> >> subject/session numbers, I have not tried this (now that I think
> about
> >> it, it would be very handy for me)... Perhaps try something like the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> To start, you'd need a basic autoit data collection box at the start
> >> of the executable (i.e., before the randomly selected .ebs2 files
> >> begin) - autoit provides a good example of this code in one of their
> >> sample code files (see example file "inputbox.au3") . The next part
> >> (having autoit automatically populate the subject/session values) is
> >> more complicated, but perhaps try something like the following:
> >>
> >> In the current code, there are lines that include (something like)
> >> "winwait.open; winwait.close" -- you may be able to tell autoit to
> >> wait until the "enter subject #" box appears (by simply providing
> >> autoit with the name of that box, as is done in my current code with
> >> "E-Run"), then have autoit insert a subject/session number collected
> >> at the start (i.e., from the input box in the previous step).
> You may
> >> be able to tell autoit to wait until "enter Ss #" box appears, then
> >> code it to press "TAB" (x) times, the value from the input box, then
> >> "RETURN" (these can be done with ASCII code). I know it sounds
> silly,
> >> but it might actually work...
> >>
> >> Tell you what - I'll play around with this idea (very) late tonight,
> >> then send you a code file if I figure it out... For now, you can
> >> download a newer version of the ebs2 call autoit file from my
> personal
> >> website: [www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3
> <http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3>] -- this version
> >> includes code to call a few ebs2 files in a determined sequence
> (after
> >> a series of randomly-selected ebs2 files).
> >>
> >> Hope that helps!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> On Apr 16, 9:56 am, liwenna <liwe... at gmail.com
> <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is like magic!!!
> >>> This is exactly what I need to run my battery of tests. Well...
> almost
> >>> exactly... except for the random part that is. I am trying to
> get that
> >>> part out, yet I am experiencing troubles using auto-it as my
> >>> university ICT guys won't let us install nifty little programs like
> >>> this.
> >>> Would there be a way to have autoit also insert subject and session
> >>> numbers? Perhaps even make a shiny litle autoit interface
> wherein you
> >>> enter subject and session numbers and then run the whole everything
> >>> from that? I'll work on it myself and keep you guys informed if
> >>> something good comes from it, just wondering if you, Frank, had
> >>> allready tried something similar?
> >>> Greetings,
> >>> liwenna
> >>> On Mar 16, 9:00 pm, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu
> <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu>> wrote:
> >>>> Frank,
> >>>> Wow, this looks really cool, thanks very much for taking on the
> >>>> assignment and writing back. Looks like it will be worth my
> time to
> >>>> look into AutoIt further, and continue recommending it to others.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
> >>>> At 3/14/2009 02:21 AM Saturday, you wrote:
> >>>>> David,
> >>>>> Thanks very much for your suggestion! I've created a script
> for this
> >>>>> purpose in Autoit (it works very well). I don't know how to
> attach a
> >>>>> file in this window, so please feel free to download it from my
> >>>>> personal website (see link below), and share. In the .zip
> file, I
> >>>>> have included the Autoit script file, a compiled version, and a
> >>>>> basic .txt instruction file.
> >>>>> http://www.frankbosco.com/call_ebs.zip
> >>>>> All the best,
> >>>>> Frank
> >>>>> On Mar 13, 10:47 am, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu
> <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Frank,
> >>>>>> This question has come up before (e.g.,
> >>>>> seehttp://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx
> <http://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx>), and I keep
> >>>>>> suggesting AutoIt
> >>>>>>
> (<http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3>http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3
> >>>>>> ). So far no one has reported back on this, and I never
> have time to
> >>>>>> try it myself. Perhaps you could give that a try and let us
> all know
> >>>>>> how it works.
> >>>>>> Other than that, you might try a good old DOS-style batch
> >>>>>> file. Also, someone once suggested (sorry, I do not have
> the link)
> >>>>>> using links in a .pdf to guide the course of a battery of
> >>>>>> tests. That would still require some manual interaction,
> but might
> >>>>>> help a little.
> >>>>>> Please let us know what you find.
> >>>>>> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
> >>>>>>> Dear E-Prime group,
> >>>>>>> I am searching for a (presumably) simple external
> application (e.g., a
> >>>>>>> small VB-based program) to call several EBS2 files to run
> in a desired
> >>>>>>> order (preferably random order). I would like to
> administer a battery
> >>>>>>> ofexperimentsin a group setting, and am having a great deal of
> >>>>>>> trouble integrating the procedures from each separate .ES2
> file into
> >>>>>>> one "main" .ES2 file with blocklists (E-Prime support
> suggested that
> >>>>>>> my individual procedures exceed E-Prime's
> copy/pastecapacity, and E-
> >>>>>>> Prime's automatic renaming of duplicate objects is making
> the task
> >>>>>>> even more difficult).
> >>>>>>> Would anyone be willing to share something along these
> lines? Any
> >>>>>>> help would be greatly appreciated. I am not very familiar with
> >>>>>>> programming languages.
> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
> >>>>>>> Frank
> >>>>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >>>>>>> Frank A. Bosco
> >>>>>>> Doctoral Student
> >>>>>>> Dept. of Management (OB/HR)
> >>>>>>> Fogelman College of Business & Economics
> >>>>>>> The University of Memphis
> >>>>>>> fbo... at memphis.edu <mailto:fbo... at memphis.edu>
> >>>>>>> Office: (901) 678-4531
> >>>>>>> Cell: (901) 387-7864
> >>>>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > >
>
> --
> Rick O'Gorman, PhD
> Psychology, Faculty of Development and Society
> Collegiate Crescent Campus,
> Sheffield Hallam University,
> Sheffield
> S10 2BP
>
> Phone: 0114 225 5788 Fax: 0114 225 2430
>
> http://www.shu.ac.uk/psychology/staff/OGorman.html
>
> No passion can survive a woman's seeing her lover hold
> his fork in the wrong way.
> ~Edith Wharton
>
>
>
>
> >
--
Rick O'Gorman, PhD
Psychology, Faculty of Development and Society
Collegiate Crescent Campus,
Sheffield Hallam University,
Sheffield
S10 2BP
Phone: 0114 225 5788 Fax: 0114 225 2430
http://www.shu.ac.uk/psychology/staff/OGorman.html
No passion can survive a woman's seeing her lover hold
his fork in the wrong way.
~Edith Wharton
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