E-Prime on a VM
liwenna
liwenna at gmail.com
Fri Apr 24 09:39:49 UTC 2009
LO AND BEHOLD!!!
It worked out ! \o/
In the two links below two autoitscripts can be downloaded. They work
under the same conditions as Frank Bosco's scripts but these one will
also prompt you for subject and sessionnumber once and autofill these
into the eprime experiments. Maybe the interface of the loginbox could
be made a litle more shiny and a little less autoit like but otherwise
it seems to work all fine. Major thanks go out to the autoitforum
person who actually had it all done in minutes... isn't it amazing?!
I have no personal uploadspace so it's on a filesharing machine... If
someone cares to host it, that would be nice too, little script, take
hardly any space.
http://www.2shared.com/fadmin/5474738/cd5d2d5c/scritp_to_call_ebs2_files_in_random_order_and_autofill_startup_info.au3.html
http://www.2shared.com/fadmin/5474737/5de230cd/scritp_to_call_ebs2_files_in_fixed_order_and_autofill_startup_info.au3.html
Please let me know how these work out for you guys. Maybe in abundancy
but: don't use the script for timed experiments... no idea what it'll
do to the timing.
Greetings,
liwenna
On Apr 23, 4:16 pm, liwenna <liwe... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok...
>
> I think that it's simply not possible to mess with eprime when it
> comes to the startup info.
> After being not so successful with combining a 'loginbox'script and
> Franks' "call a number of ebs files" script I posted on the autoit
> forums for help, and someone made a script that *should* do the
> trick... but it doesn't . see:http://www.autoitscript.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=93731&st=0&gopi...
>
> I tried some things in eprime itself, to see whether there would be
> workarounds to setting 'subject' and 'session' but there seem to be
> none. For instance: I tried to insert a simple piece of script to
> change "session" and "subject" from the default right into the estudio-
> file:
>
> c.SetAttrib "Subject", "2"
> c.SetAttrib "Session", "3"
>
> but e-prime won't buy that either... it's stays set at 1 and 1.
>
> perhaps there are possibilities trough package calls?? I never used
> those so I have no idea of what their powers are?
>
> otherwise I think we'll stay stuck with instructing subjects to enter
> in the numbers.
>
> End of this update ^.^
>
> -liw
>
> On Apr 20, 1:42 pm, liwenna <liwe... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually... I meant thanks to Frank ^.^
>
> > This topic is getting more and more complex.
>
> > I am gonna give up on autoit for today...
>
> > On Apr 20, 12:03 pm, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Liwenna,
>
> > > I am thinking you meant thanks to Greg here?
>
> > > Rick
>
> > > liwenna wrote:
> > > > *small update*
>
> > > > The script to call files in a fixed order is working as properly as
> > > > expected. Rick, thank you so very much.
> > > > The auto-it forum is offline right now (maintenance) so toying around
> > > > with the script to make it give in subject and session numbers will
> > > > have to wait.
>
> > > > On Apr 18, 5:55 pm, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Hi Greg,
>
> > > >> Well, that's one difference, and I suppose there are different bugs in
> > > >> the versions of VB for Mac and XP. However, still seems odd. Definitely
> > > >> went smoothly for me on the Mac host/XP guest using VB. I assume you're
> > > >> using a recent version of VB (2.1 or better)? Other than that, I'm out
> > > >> of ideas.
>
> > > >> Rick
>
> > > >> Greg Osenbach wrote:
> > > >>> I use Sun Virtual Box. The installer runs fine. I have tried with both
> > > >>> the install files copied from the CD and a mounted .iso file. when it
> > > >>> gets near the end of the installation process, The virtual machine
> > > >>> crashes. I have tried with several versions of vurtual box and on
> > > >>> several different laptops with the same results. I had actually come to
> > > >>> the conclusion that for some odd reason, e-prime could not be used in a
> > > >>> virtual machine. However hearing that someone got it to work, that
> > > >>> gives me hope to be able to get it running eventually. Although I
> > > >>> should note that this was an XP virtual machine running in both XP and
> > > >>> Vista for hosts. Not a mac.
> > > >>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com
> > > >>> <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >>> Hi Greg,
> > > >>> I don't remember any problems with installing E-Prime on my VM per se,
> > > >>> only with getting it to see the dongle, which was a pain. This was
> > > >>> partly because I had to learn how to get Virtualbox to allow the guest
> > > >>> OS (WinXP) to see the USB dongle. The first time I did this, Windows
> > > >>> also didn't try to find drivers, so I used Aladdin's HASP driver, but
> > > >>> the wrong kind (but they still worked). The second time (I had to
> > > >>> reinstall when we upgraded from 2.x beta to 2.x gold) I used the right
> > > >>> ones. My bootcamp also failed to look for drivers with the beta (a
> > > >>> pattern?) but did find them for the gold install.
> > > >>> I think both times I copied across the install file rather than just run
> > > >>> it from the CD--maybe that's a factor?
> > > >>> Are you using VB, or one of the commercial options (Fusion, Parallels)?
> > > >>> Rick
> > > >>> Greg Osenbach wrote:
> > > >>> > Was there anything special you had to do to get e-prime to
> > > >>> install in a
> > > >>> > virtual box virtual machine? I have tried installing it in my
> > > >>> virtual
> > > >>> > machine several times and it always crashes during the install...
> > > >>> > Greg
> > > >>> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Rick O'Gorman
> > > >>> <rickogor... at gmail.com <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>
> > > >>> > <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > > >>> > Liwenna:
> > > >>> > As an aside to your topic, I also have a Mac. You can get a
> > > >>> program
> > > >>> > called Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org
> > > >>> <http://www.virtualbox.org> <http://www.virtualbox.org>)
> > > >>> > for *free* from Sun which does
> > > >>> > the same kind of thing as Parallels. Its a little more techy
> > > >>> but I
> > > >>> > didn't have too much trouble setting it up. You still need a
> > > >>> legal
> > > >>> > Windows copy, but probably you can get a discounted copy from
> > > >>> your univ.
> > > >>> > I run E-Prime on that setup and it works fine. Getting the dongle
> > > >>> > recognised was a little tricky, as you have to tell
> > > >>> Virtualbox to access
> > > >>> > the USB dongle and may also have to get drivers for it (one
> > > >>> time I did,
> > > >>> > the next time I didn't as Windows found some itself, not the
> > > >>> ones I used
> > > >>> > previously)--I got them from
> > > >>> > http://www.aladdin.com/support/hasp/enduser.aspx, using the
> > > >>> HASP HL ones
> > > >>> > I think (I tried both options there). It might depend on
> > > >>> whether you use
> > > >>> > an individual ddongle, network dongle or no dongle (if that's an
> > > >>> > option).
> > > >>> > The E-Prime people (PST) are completely unhelpful in this
> > > >>> regard, as
> > > >>> > 'they don't support Macs' which is a total cop-out. They went
> > > >>> so far as
> > > >>> > to deny any responsibility to help me with my bootcamp Windows
> > > >>> > install--even though its running natively and is as
> > > >>> legitimate a version
> > > >>> > of Windows as any other. I found that a disgrace and frankly
> > > >>> has made me
> > > >>> > keep a firm eye out for E-Prime alternatives, when the chance
> > > >>> presents
> > > >>> > itself.
> > > >>> > Rick
> > > >>> > liwenna wrote:
> > > >>> > > Hello Frank,
> > > >>> > > Thanks for your quick reply! It would be great if you
> > > >>> could try the
> > > >>> > > numbers-thing. At my university I can only 'run' the au3
> > > >>> scripts, and
> > > >>> > > edit them in notepad, but in order to do that I first need
> > > >>> to figure
> > > >>> > > out the language... My guess is that if you get the
> > > >>> program to run
> > > >>> > > orderly, editing the code is fare more simple, right? But as
> > > >>> > said, ICT
> > > >>> > > guys won't let me. At home I also can't do that as I am
> > > >>> the proud
> > > >>> > > owner of a Mac, which I really love but sometimes it's a pain
> > > >>> > (and yes
> > > >>> > > I should get myself some parallels).
> > > >>> > > I am homeworking today but I'll try the script you posted
> > > >>> first thing
> > > >>> > > on monday!
> > > >>> > > Sincerely,
> > > >>> > > liwenna.
> > > >>> > > On Apr 16, 8:55 pm, frankbosco <goo... at frankbosco.com
> > > >>> <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>
> > > >>> > <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com
> > > >>> <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>>> wrote:
> > > >>> > >> Hi Liwenna,
> > > >>> > >> Thanks for your message. Re: having autoit automatically
> > > >>> insert
> > > >>> > >> subject/session numbers, I have not tried this (now that
> > > >>> I think
> > > >>> > about
> > > >>> > >> it, it would be very handy for me)... Perhaps try
> > > >>> something like the
> > > >>> > >> following:
> > > >>> > >> To start, you'd need a basic autoit data collection box
> > > >>> at the start
> > > >>> > >> of the executable (i.e., before the randomly selected
> > > >>> .ebs2 files
> > > >>> > >> begin) - autoit provides a good example of this code in
> > > >>> one of their
> > > >>> > >> sample code files (see example file "inputbox.au3") .
> > > >>> The next part
> > > >>> > >> (having autoit automatically populate the subject/session
> > > >>> values) is
> > > >>> > >> more complicated, but perhaps try something like the
> > > >>> following:
> > > >>> > >> In the current code, there are lines that include
> > > >>> (something like)
> > > >>> > >> "winwait.open; winwait.close" -- you may be able to tell
> > > >>> autoit to
> > > >>> > >> wait until the "enter subject #" box appears (by simply
> > > >>> providing
> > > >>> > >> autoit with the name of that box, as is done in my
> > > >>> current code with
> > > >>> > >> "E-Run"), then have autoit insert a subject/session
> > > >>> number collected
> > > >>> > >> at the start (i.e., from the input box in the previous step).
> > > >>> > You may
> > > >>> > >> be able to tell autoit to wait until "enter Ss #" box
> > > >>> appears, then
> > > >>> > >> code it to press "TAB" (x) times, the value from the
> > > >>> input box, then
> > > >>> > >> "RETURN" (these can be done with ASCII code). I know
>
> ...
>
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