E-Prime on a VM
liwenna
liwenna at gmail.com
Mon Apr 20 11:42:17 UTC 2009
Actually... I meant thanks to Frank ^.^
This topic is getting more and more complex.
I am gonna give up on autoit for today...
On Apr 20, 12:03 pm, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Liwenna,
>
> I am thinking you meant thanks to Greg here?
>
> Rick
>
> liwenna wrote:
> > *small update*
>
> > The script to call files in a fixed order is working as properly as
> > expected. Rick, thank you so very much.
> > The auto-it forum is offline right now (maintenance) so toying around
> > with the script to make it give in subject and session numbers will
> > have to wait.
>
> > On Apr 18, 5:55 pm, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Greg,
>
> >> Well, that's one difference, and I suppose there are different bugs in
> >> the versions of VB for Mac and XP. However, still seems odd. Definitely
> >> went smoothly for me on the Mac host/XP guest using VB. I assume you're
> >> using a recent version of VB (2.1 or better)? Other than that, I'm out
> >> of ideas.
>
> >> Rick
>
> >> Greg Osenbach wrote:
> >>> I use Sun Virtual Box. The installer runs fine. I have tried with both
> >>> the install files copied from the CD and a mounted .iso file. when it
> >>> gets near the end of the installation process, The virtual machine
> >>> crashes. I have tried with several versions of vurtual box and on
> >>> several different laptops with the same results. I had actually come to
> >>> the conclusion that for some odd reason, e-prime could not be used in a
> >>> virtual machine. However hearing that someone got it to work, that
> >>> gives me hope to be able to get it running eventually. Although I
> >>> should note that this was an XP virtual machine running in both XP and
> >>> Vista for hosts. Not a mac.
> >>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> Hi Greg,
> >>> I don't remember any problems with installing E-Prime on my VM per se,
> >>> only with getting it to see the dongle, which was a pain. This was
> >>> partly because I had to learn how to get Virtualbox to allow the guest
> >>> OS (WinXP) to see the USB dongle. The first time I did this, Windows
> >>> also didn't try to find drivers, so I used Aladdin's HASP driver, but
> >>> the wrong kind (but they still worked). The second time (I had to
> >>> reinstall when we upgraded from 2.x beta to 2.x gold) I used the right
> >>> ones. My bootcamp also failed to look for drivers with the beta (a
> >>> pattern?) but did find them for the gold install.
> >>> I think both times I copied across the install file rather than just run
> >>> it from the CD--maybe that's a factor?
> >>> Are you using VB, or one of the commercial options (Fusion, Parallels)?
> >>> Rick
> >>> Greg Osenbach wrote:
> >>> > Was there anything special you had to do to get e-prime to
> >>> install in a
> >>> > virtual box virtual machine? I have tried installing it in my
> >>> virtual
> >>> > machine several times and it always crashes during the install...
> >>> > Greg
> >>> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Rick O'Gorman
> >>> <rickogor... at gmail.com <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>
> >>> > <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>> > Liwenna:
> >>> > As an aside to your topic, I also have a Mac. You can get a
> >>> program
> >>> > called Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org
> >>> <http://www.virtualbox.org> <http://www.virtualbox.org>)
> >>> > for *free* from Sun which does
> >>> > the same kind of thing as Parallels. Its a little more techy
> >>> but I
> >>> > didn't have too much trouble setting it up. You still need a
> >>> legal
> >>> > Windows copy, but probably you can get a discounted copy from
> >>> your univ.
> >>> > I run E-Prime on that setup and it works fine. Getting the dongle
> >>> > recognised was a little tricky, as you have to tell
> >>> Virtualbox to access
> >>> > the USB dongle and may also have to get drivers for it (one
> >>> time I did,
> >>> > the next time I didn't as Windows found some itself, not the
> >>> ones I used
> >>> > previously)--I got them from
> >>> > http://www.aladdin.com/support/hasp/enduser.aspx, using the
> >>> HASP HL ones
> >>> > I think (I tried both options there). It might depend on
> >>> whether you use
> >>> > an individual ddongle, network dongle or no dongle (if that's an
> >>> > option).
> >>> > The E-Prime people (PST) are completely unhelpful in this
> >>> regard, as
> >>> > 'they don't support Macs' which is a total cop-out. They went
> >>> so far as
> >>> > to deny any responsibility to help me with my bootcamp Windows
> >>> > install--even though its running natively and is as
> >>> legitimate a version
> >>> > of Windows as any other. I found that a disgrace and frankly
> >>> has made me
> >>> > keep a firm eye out for E-Prime alternatives, when the chance
> >>> presents
> >>> > itself.
> >>> > Rick
> >>> > liwenna wrote:
> >>> > > Hello Frank,
> >>> > > Thanks for your quick reply! It would be great if you
> >>> could try the
> >>> > > numbers-thing. At my university I can only 'run' the au3
> >>> scripts, and
> >>> > > edit them in notepad, but in order to do that I first need
> >>> to figure
> >>> > > out the language... My guess is that if you get the
> >>> program to run
> >>> > > orderly, editing the code is fare more simple, right? But as
> >>> > said, ICT
> >>> > > guys won't let me. At home I also can't do that as I am
> >>> the proud
> >>> > > owner of a Mac, which I really love but sometimes it's a pain
> >>> > (and yes
> >>> > > I should get myself some parallels).
> >>> > > I am homeworking today but I'll try the script you posted
> >>> first thing
> >>> > > on monday!
> >>> > > Sincerely,
> >>> > > liwenna.
> >>> > > On Apr 16, 8:55 pm, frankbosco <goo... at frankbosco.com
> >>> <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>
> >>> > <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com
> >>> <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>>> wrote:
> >>> > >> Hi Liwenna,
> >>> > >> Thanks for your message. Re: having autoit automatically
> >>> insert
> >>> > >> subject/session numbers, I have not tried this (now that
> >>> I think
> >>> > about
> >>> > >> it, it would be very handy for me)... Perhaps try
> >>> something like the
> >>> > >> following:
> >>> > >> To start, you'd need a basic autoit data collection box
> >>> at the start
> >>> > >> of the executable (i.e., before the randomly selected
> >>> .ebs2 files
> >>> > >> begin) - autoit provides a good example of this code in
> >>> one of their
> >>> > >> sample code files (see example file "inputbox.au3") .
> >>> The next part
> >>> > >> (having autoit automatically populate the subject/session
> >>> values) is
> >>> > >> more complicated, but perhaps try something like the
> >>> following:
> >>> > >> In the current code, there are lines that include
> >>> (something like)
> >>> > >> "winwait.open; winwait.close" -- you may be able to tell
> >>> autoit to
> >>> > >> wait until the "enter subject #" box appears (by simply
> >>> providing
> >>> > >> autoit with the name of that box, as is done in my
> >>> current code with
> >>> > >> "E-Run"), then have autoit insert a subject/session
> >>> number collected
> >>> > >> at the start (i.e., from the input box in the previous step).
> >>> > You may
> >>> > >> be able to tell autoit to wait until "enter Ss #" box
> >>> appears, then
> >>> > >> code it to press "TAB" (x) times, the value from the
> >>> input box, then
> >>> > >> "RETURN" (these can be done with ASCII code). I know it
> >>> sounds
> >>> > silly,
> >>> > >> but it might actually work...
> >>> > >> Tell you what - I'll play around with this idea (very)
> >>> late tonight,
> >>> > >> then send you a code file if I figure it out... For now,
> >>> you can
> >>> > >> download a newer version of the ebs2 call autoit file from my
> >>> > personal
> >>> > >> website: [www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3
> >>> <http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3>
> >>> > <http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3>] -- this version
> >>> > >> includes code to call a few ebs2 files in a determined
> >>> sequence
> >>> > (after
> >>> > >> a series of randomly-selected ebs2 files).
> >>> > >> Hope that helps!
> >>> > >> Best,
> >>> > >> Frank
> >>> > >> On Apr 16, 9:56 am, liwenna <liwe... at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com>
> >>> > <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>> > >>> It is like magic!!!
> >>> > >>> This is exactly what I need to run my battery of tests.
> >>> Well...
> >>> > almost
> >>> > >>> exactly... except for the random part that is. I am
> >>> trying to
> >>> > get that
> >>> > >>> part out, yet I am experiencing troubles using auto-it as my
> >>> > >>> university ICT guys won't let us install nifty little
> >>> programs like
> >>> > >>> this.
> >>> > >>> Would there be a way to have autoit also insert subject
> >>> and session
> >>> > >>> numbers? Perhaps even make a shiny litle autoit interface
> >>> > wherein you
> >>> > >>> enter subject and session numbers and then run the whole
> >>> everything
> >>> > >>> from that? I'll work on it myself and keep you guys
> >>> informed if
> >>> > >>> something good comes from it, just wondering if
>
> ...
>
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