Eprime 2-sound file problem

Tue Aug 3 16:33:53 UTC 2010

Hi Lidia & David,

David, do you know if there's any chance it'd be possible to run the experiments in WinXP mode (Lidia might give that a try too). I have little idea myself, and it would be convenient if PST could at some point check this thoroughly (at least in terms of timing), in order to give the rest of us some answer. Of course, a commercial company is sawing off their own branch if they don't even try to keep up with technological trends ('we won't patch our $650 program because you updated your $20 (academic license) OS'?), so all in all, they should have long had a decent Vista, let alone Win7, version. 
Cheers,
Mich

(I just stumbled upon https://www.dreamspark.com/default.aspx the other week, btw; well recommended for those in need of free graphical software and IDEs)

Michiel Spapé
Research Fellow
Perception & Action group
University of Nottingham
School of Psychology

-----Original Message-----
From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David McFarlane
Sent: 03 August 2010 15:52
To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eprime 2-sound file problem

Lidia,

Brandon Cernicky's assurances notwithstanding (see 
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic3772-12-1.aspx ), little or 
nothing has changed in the over two years since these problems 
started, let alone in the 3.5 weeks since I posted that reply.  My 
advice remains practically the same as posted on 28 Aug 2009 at 
http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime/browse_thread/thread/c6f0aaf2eabf4f97 
(except that I would now add the same caution against Windows 7):

"In short, DO NOT use Vista [or Windows 7] for E-Prime 2!  E-Prime 1, 
by contrast, does seem to work OK under Vista.  Nevertheless, I would 
go even further to insist that Vista [and Win7] not be used for 
running any experiments, as Vista [and Win7] simply has not proved 
itself reliable for laboratory use in the way that XP has.  OK though 
to use Vista [or Win7] for *developing* the experiment programs and 
then move them to XP machines for running subjects, if you can get 
through the occasional glitches during development -- that's what I do."

That said, everyone should still submit this as a Web Support request 
at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp and pressure 
PST to make this right.

<editorial>
But what happens to us later when Microsoft stops activating new 
installations of XP?  We really need to work out something on a free 
and open source ("FOSS") platform (e.g., using Linux), with science 
in mind instead of depending on consumer-grade technology, so that we 
are not so beholden to the vagaries of markets and corporate decisions.
</editorial>

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder

>Dear David and Liat,
>
>This is regarding soundfiles using Eprime2 and Vista. I have also 
>made a request to PST Web support. I am waiting for a response. In 
>my case, my Eprime 1.2 was running smoothly with XP. Now we are 
>working with Eprime2 2.0.8.22 and Professional in Vista. My stimuli 
>have to be played 3 times, and the time between each repetition is 
>of 750 ms. However, the stimuli play at random times (sometimes 
>750ms, sometimes longer laps), and sometimes the stimuli just do not 
>play...in that case the Ctrl+Alt+Shift does not respond. Do you have 
>any solution to this or have news from PST Web support? Thanks very much.
>
>Lidia
>
>On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:46 AM, David McFarlane 
><<mailto:mcfarla9 at msu.edu>mcfarla9 at msu.edu> wrote:
>Liat,
>
>EP2.0.8.74 seems to have introduced new bugs with sound (movies too, 
>it seems).  I recommend simply reverting to 2.0.8.22 until PST comes 
>out with a fix, you almost certainly do not need whatever they added 
>in 2.0.8.74.  In the meantime, please also submit a request to PST 
>Web Support at 
><http://support.pstnet.com/e-prime/support/login.asp>http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp 
>so that they might take notice and fix this.
>
>-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
>
>
>
>At 7/15/2010 04:25 AM Thursday, you wrote:
>Dear All,
>After updating E-Prime to version 2.0.8.74, and when I try to run my 
>script, which ran smoothly on previous Eprime2, I get an error 
>message about being unable to load soundfile 203. Nothing has been 
>changed in the script nor have any files moved. The error also says 
>to look up an Audio Report file in the My Experiments folder,which, 
>I pasted  below.
>
>This is a rather serious problem since we can now no longer run our 
>experiment, and I have saw someone else on the eprime support forum 
>have exactly the same problem, but no solution has yet been posted.
>
>Regards,
>Liat
>PS. We are running Eprime 2 in XP (since we originally had serious 
>issues with our sounds files when we were trying to run eprime 2 in windows 7)

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